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Lack of hardware controls puts me off the SA One Series a bit. Menu diving on a Zoom MS-60B is a pain, but at least it is a possibility without attaching to a phone or Laptop. I did own an Aftershock for a while and got rid of it because although it says it can do every conceivable type of distortion I didn't feel any were quite as good as just an individual pedals. Convenient though, and good for the EQ stuff so I might give it another go. The Ultrawave looks interesting as it'd mean a seperate compressor isn't needed, I've been put off by the fact that every demo shows it doing really extreme foldover and synth and ring modulator type sounds and I just want a fairly standard tubescreamer type distortion, I assume it probably can do mild too though?

That's a good call. I did own one and still have the Neuro app installed so had a quick look on it and there is a lot of EQ adjustability per preset, and a long-press on theh footswitch can change from one preset to the other. There is one for sale on here so I might go for that, or perhaps the Ultrawave that's for also for sale here as that has the EQ and drive and also a compressor.

Thanks for the suggestions. I like the form factor of the Tech 21 flyrig type pedals, it's a shame that none other than the VT Deluxe seem to have programmable EQ including mids. The Zoom pedals are undoubtedtly the best value, I have found myself (particularaly with the MS-60B) scratching my head and clicking through menus to get into A/B mode or scrolling through A-G or whatever it is to get back to where I want to be and trying to remember which preset is which, or figure out what is unexpectedly on/off in the signal chain though. That is user error but I'd prefer something more foolproof for live use 'stomp this button for this sound, the other button for the other sound'. The Valeton GP 200 LT is a contender (£229 Andertons), could click up/down between EQ and drive presets, it also means I wouldn't need a seperate tuner or compressor. Probably not much better than the Zoom B1-four but the coloured footswitch lights and screen might make it a bit more foolproof.

Surely it's like saying 'I only need one car/bike/pair of shoes etc. to get from A to B'... yeah, you can go for a hike in high heels bit it isn't going to get the job done as well as walking boots, (depends on the job through I suppose!).

The lists are all different, no one is trying to prove anything - just letting people know their personal favorites, for fun.

I want to be able to stomp one footswitch to go from an overdriven mid focussed tone (ska/punk) to a clean and dubby tone (dub/reggae part of songs). So a change in overdrive and EQ with one footswitch - seemingly fairly simple thing but without going the multi-fx route it is only the VT Deluxe, or perhaps the EBS Microbass 3, or Darkglass Alpha Omega Photon that spring to mind, any other recommendations? Or I suppose I could put a EQ pedal and drive pedal in one FX loop and an EQ pedal in another fx loop, that seems a bit inelegant/bulky/expensive, and the opposite of the KISS principle though. A digital multi-fx is the probably the obvious answer given that things like the Darkglass cost £500 with fewer features.....which probably means back to the sell pedals/buy multi-fx cycle again!

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It looks good. I'd buy one right now if it also had a tuner that'd bring the convenience of an all-in-one like the Fishman platinum Pro or EBS microbass 3 (or some of the digital multi-fx pedals). As it is though it'd need to be teamed up with a tuner pedal - which probaly means needing a power brick and small pedalboard, then it isn't much more cost effective or convenient than having seperate pedals - I have a Broughton SV pre and could add a Spectracomp and Hotone IR/DI for similar overall price, size, and additional functionality.

Is the compressor on the Valeton GP 200 decent enough for Bass? I assume it's alright as the 'S Comp' has Threshold, Ratio, Attack, Release, Tone, Blend. And generally does the unit seem reliable - no long loading times when you turn it on, connectivity issues, or annoying software updates/glitches?

Got an EHB 1005 MS for the second time (bad back and tennis elbow were good excuses that I 'must' get a lightweight and ergonomic bass) Then got carried away with the glow fret markers!

Bought a pedal from Paul and it arrived quickly and is as described. Thanks!

Earlier today I played a £4,550 Yamaha Nathan East, it is better than my £175 Yamaha RBX765A.....but not that much better! As well as the Yamaha shop I also went to the Denmark St shops and played all sorts of Basses but nothing made me think they are worth getting, none were enough of an improvement over the RBX to justify it. I might get an Ibanez EHB 1005 MS (again!) though, mostly as it is lighter and fretting is easier. I don't expect to make better sounding music from it - but it'll be more comfortable to play, and I spend a lot of time playing so I reckon that's probably a worthwhile reason.

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I just watched the Graceland ('Classic Album' series) documentary last week and he discussed this: He said it was about a point in his life where he was feeling down and unsure about life, had recently split from his wife and the Garfunkel partnership, but then he finds redemption in S Africa recording the Graceland album. A lot of the lyrics are depressing and he sort of regrets the jokey video. A man walks down the street He says, "Why am I soft in the middle, now? Why am I soft in the middle? The rest of my life is so hard I need a photo-opportunity I want a shot at redemption Don't want to end up a cartoon In a cartoon graveyard" .....that's him writing about himself, feeling irrelevant - like the famous version of him is a cartoon caricature, a 'cartoon' joke that'll die Bonedigger, Bonedigger Dogs in the moonlight Far away in my well-lit door Mr. Beerbelly, Beerbelly Get these mutts away from me You know, I don't find this stuff amusing anymore ......... again, fairly depressing stuff: graveyard, dark, dogs after him, unfit, he's had enough of feeling afraid and worrying about death. If you'll be my bodyguard I can be your long lost pal I can call you Betty And Betty, when you call me, you can call me Al ...........he needs help (he doesn't mention why the Betty/Al in the documentary but other places say it was him and his wife being mistakenly referred to as that at a party) A man walks down the street He says, "Why am I short of attention? Got a short little span of attention .......aparently a Richard joke. And, whoa, my nights are so long Where's my wife and family? What if I die here? Who'll be my role model Now that my role model is gone, gone?" ...........dark. He ducked back down the alley With some roly-poly little bat-faced girl All along, along There were incidents and accidents There were hints and allegations If you'll be my bodyguard I can be your long lost pal I can call you Betty And Betty, when you call me, you can call me Al Call me Al A man walks down the street It's a street in a strange world Maybe it's the third world Maybe it's his first time around Doesn't speak the language He holds no currency He is a foreign man He is surrounded by the sound, the sound Cattle in the marketplace Scatterings and orphanages He looks around, around He sees angels in the architecture Spinning in infinity He says, "Amen and Hallelujah!" ......recording 'Graceland' album in South Africa and finding redemption.

It's very unscientific as I didn't have the others to directly compare it with, but I'm often after quite a specific tone (a slightly saturated low-mid heavy slightly compressed Reggae/Dub sound) and I found the Boss got me a tone I was happy with and I stopped adjusting it, with other multi-fx I've always been constantly adjusting and trying different things like IRs and never quite being happy with them. (As individual pedals, an FEA Opti-Fet compressor + Creation Audio Grizzly Bass + Q-Strip got me there too). For more distorted sounds I get the impression that the Zoom and Line 6 things are basically different EQ & gain versions of the same thing, the Boss ones felt a bit more individual to me - closer to having individual pedals. I find most multi-fx are pretty good at modulation and delays so there isn't much in it there, and none are much good at filters (which is odd seing as Source Audio do it so well digitally, so it is possible). I suppose the ability to have multiple split paths with dynamic switching and huge amount of fx available for long chains set the Boss apart as a more powerful multi-fx, most of what I'm after was simpler than that though - just a good solid Reggae tone, but perhaps that does actually take some powerful processing to sound really good.

I'm fickle with multi-fx. I've owned the Zoom (B1-four, MS-60B, MS70 CDR), Line 6 (Effects, Stomp, Stomp XL, Pod Go), and recently the Boss GT 1000 Core. I think Zoom are the best value, Line 6 the nicest interface, Boss the most powerful and best sounding. Just as I've sold all my pedals I've joined up to a new band that uses a PA so am considering my pedal options again though (I've been using an MPC Key 61 as a Bass multi-fx at home - that might not be practical live though). As I'll be playing through a PA I think Amp/Cab sims and IR loader would be good, 2x inputs (keyboard and Bass) and a way of splitting the output signal would be useful - one to mixer and one to a monitor. It looks like the Valeton GP 200 is a relatively cheap contender, downside being it only has one input....the Boss I've just sold would probably be ideal so @Al Krow bear that in mind it you don't get on with it!

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That's a good interview. I'm a big fan of Barrington

The experience of dozens of people (including me) would beg to differ though. A good proportion of this talkbass thread is people complaining about it. Perhaps it was bugs that have since been fixed though.

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