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Yeah, I wasn't sure if it did that (or perhaps I was remembering the B1 Four? I've owned both). But it does that thing where you can footswitch scroll through a few presets, the new one doesn't.

Yeah, it's a shame there aren't just a couple of software changes: Allow the Patch name to be constantly displayed, and allow the footswitch to scroll through a list of patches. Bring back PC editing, and perhaps I'm imagining things, but I seem to remember the older MS-60 having more parameter control on certain effects. After all the effort of a hardware re-design and certain software improvements it seems an own goal to get rid of those useful things that the older model has.

I'll end up buying it back!

For me, at band practice I was a bit disappointed with some practicalities. I found changing patches or scrolling effects something that needs to be done by hand - not ideal for a pedal on the floor. It's not quickly obvious which effects are engaged in a patch - need to scroll through them all. Even just using the footswitch to turn one effect on/off (or tuner) seems a bit risky live - too easy to potentially stomp one of the other buttons and change patch with my size 12 boots. Changing overall volume is a bit of a menu click through (e.g. started a song and volume seemed a bit low - most pedals or amp it's a very quick action to turn up, not quick enough to do mid song with the MS 60B+ though). The old MS 60B system of footswitch scrolling through a few selected presets would solve a lot of my issues. So it's not for me. Sorry @tayste_2000 but it was from Amazon so will get returned rather than sold here!

All very nearly deafened by the guit@r1$t mucking about with a cracking loose cable while turning the volume right up to 'check what's wrong' before ear piercing feedback.

I got the MS-60B+ yesterday (ruining any chance of a 2025 gear abstinence!) and am quite liking it. Considering the size and price it seems a bit unfair to compare it to bigger and more expensive multi-fx but can compare to the MS-60B. The MS-60B+ has more practical/useable presets, 6x effects per block (v 4), better buttons, more knobs (but I find them a bit too small and fiddly) the colour screen is good for some stuff like the tuner (although can sometimes make things hard to read). It is simpler to turn individual effects on/off via footswitches. I think the amp/cab sims have been improved, other things sound similar (but that's just from memory, it has been a few years since I owned a MS-60B). The older MS-60B is better in some ways though: Some of the effects on the MS-60B have more parameters to control e.g. Dual Comp has 'tone' control on the older version, but isn't available on the '+'. Also, the old MS-60B seems better for use with presets as on the MS-60B+ you can't permanently display the patch (preset), that seems a big oversight and surely is just a simple software thing. On the MS-60 you could also scroll through a small list of presets with the footswitch, that isn't an option on the '+'...it seems a step back to take away that functionality. For me, this will cover a few 'always on' type things, and be a tuner, and can get it ready to stomp on/off one particular effect within a patch, I wouldn't want to be trying to scroll through patches or effects live though.

I'm out! (Justification was my Laptop and MIDI effects setup is a bit big and complex so I wanted something small for band rehearsals and as backup....But it is mostly down to me having very poor will power!) Do I at least get a wooden spoon?

If you need motivation to consume less:

I'll give it a go. (Better get buying today!)

After a while mucking about with this setup: Luminite Graviton M2 MIDI controller > UA Volt 2> Gig Performer 5 (Laptop is an Asus F15 i7). The Luminite is great, but the world of MIDI talking to software like Gig Performer can be complex. It takes a lot of learning and figuring stuff out for yourself (not many (any?!) people with this specific setup to get help from). UA Volt is very good and comes with a lot of decent free plugins. Gig Performer 5 is good, a bit expensive for what it is but this is still quite a niche so not a whole lot of other options. It has crashed on me when changing the buffer settings and changing MIDI inputs, but hopefully other than that it remains reliable. I'd say, a decent well maintained Windows laptop is just as reliable as an Apple Laptop (and I've owned two Macbooks and an iMac), it just needs a bit more setup. This one handles everything fine. For live use you just need to dig a bit into things like audio drivers, performance, turn off auto updates, don't download dodgy stuff, turn on flight mode etc. The main drawback that I think could be a sign of things to come: In live use I want the laptop lid closed and laptop out of the way, but I need a visable/stompable tuner. Edit: Another practical drawback is the Luminite needs power and laptop connection, which is completely reasonable (and could actually work via powerbank and Bluetooth), but USB to laptop is potentially risky as USB isn't really a roadworthy type of connection, and one trip on the wire and the laptop could go flying. Alternative is to use MIDI cable to the UA Volt and a separate 9v pedal power cable to power the Luminite... it then starts to feel like I need a pedalboard to go with it to have the power brick near, and then I still need to add a tuner pedal.....then - the list goes on and I'm back to using pedals but also with a Laptop/software and midi controller and audio interface, it all probably gets too complex and unnecessarily risky for my needs.

It seems a rule that Ska covers bands need 'ska' in their name, it is for the one I'm in - at pub level it helps for a 'you know what your getting' sort of thing and getting punters that want to hear ska but haven't heard of us. It isn't a very cool thing to do though, would be a bit lame if we were an originals band.

UA Volt 2 interface: Not a pedal, but as a decent interface it has allowed me to use virtual pedals with low enough latency to play live - that has opened a whole new world of possibilities, including this lot:

With over 8 billion other people on the planet and ever improving technology I expect we're all replaceable in some way or another. ....whether other band mates (or employers etc) would want to go to the effort is probably the deciding factor.

Got myself a Luminite Graviton M2: Seems a decent bit of kit. Lots of nerdy potential! The best thing with all this stuff is also the biggest drawback - it can be very complex.

Free reverb: https://www.wavealchemy.co.uk/product/magic7/ A good list of free VSTs: https://www.idesignsound.com/best-free-vst/

Ride the riddim!

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That worked for me as standalone and seemed good, but crashed 'Guitar Rig' twice (the only time it has ever crashed and otherwise always seems very stable with dozens of plugins). So I dunno where the issue is but I quickly uninstalled as I'm planning on using Laptop/Plugins live.

I saw Johnny Osbourne play live earlier this year and he still puts on a great show. 3 rewinds of 'truth and rights', I don't think anyone there was getting quite as hyped for it as I was! I have a lot of dub and reggae vinyl, but I more often use Spotify for the convenience - with various quite specific playlists.

Lots of great free pedal and rack effect emulations from Nembrini, and no latency so you can use them live: https://www.nembriniaudio.com/collections/free?srsltid=AfmBOooPRVmuR7RMiPTRp-sOmyV3cCo6e7raWnmzqIGNB4B-zvqpNFlo

I'm not fussed about Demon FX or Behringer making clones. They aren't counterfeit and pretending to actually be the original. And they aren't people basically copying (but saying 'inspired by') old designs, changing something like a transistor or adding something simple like a clean blend, then getting their kids to paint it, calling it 'boutique' and making a big deal of 'made in UK/USA' then charging £300.

And, possibly because almost every 'original' pedal has heavily borrowed from others. "The SNOW WHITE AUTOWAH (SWAW) circuit is based on a 1991 BJF rack mount remote wah circuit"