TimR

If you have house insurance you will be covered under a lot of circumstances. Have a word with them. Unless you are out every weekend they'll probably be happy to cover you, sometimes for a slight increase in your premium. It will be unlikely that it's the venue who decide whether or not to claim against you in the event of an accident. The third party insurers will claim against the venue as the accident happened on their premises and then the venue's insurers will claim against you. The venue' insurance will cover employees and casual staff, and they'll claim against those staff if they think the staff have been negligent in the event of an accident. They're asking that you're insured to save them dragging you through the courts and suing you. .

[quote name='TheRev' timestamp='1482156131' post='3198065'] I did not know that. To be fair, I'm not trying to do anything more complicated than make the pretty light more redderer.. [/quote] It's RS-485e. Good for up to 1200m. If you're running a cable from one side of a pub to the other Mic cable is fine and you may get away without termination. If odd things do happen then make up a termination plug to go in the output DMX of the last device.

[quote name='SICbass' timestamp='1481899914' post='3196130'] Our 'big' girl turned 5 this year. I'm gagging to take her to a panto. Next time we're in the UK for Christmas, I'm definitely taking her. [/quote] My 'little' boy is in our local professional Panto Peter Pan. He is in one of three teams of boys. It runs from end of November to the end of January, he has 32 performances. Means the pro performers are doing close on 100 shows over the two months. It's a fairly big undertaking.

There are a few women who have been enlightened to the ways of the bass player. They're generally not backward in coming forwards. Patience.

Bring and set up lights and smoke. Load in ad load out. Facebook. Occasionally suggest songs and trying to keep the balance between a guitarist who wants to play guitar driven heavy rock and a singer who wants to sing acoustic melodic ballads.

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1481799386' post='3195200'] I'm not sure if Blue has this term? If not I'm sure he'll agree with it anyway, "never mix business with pleasure". [/quote] I think "Keep an eye on the business side of your pleasure." Fits better.

[quote name='cheddatom' timestamp='1481798822' post='3195187'] Hah, yes, just screwed myself over with one of these projects! [/quote] I did it with two bands. Years apart for different reasons. 1st was my first band of teenagers who were going to be famous rock stars. I was the eldest, did the driving, booked and signed for venues, subbed the band (who didn't have jobs) for recordings. Then they got their mate in to play bass when it looked like they'd got a deal. Only they hadn't and the band fell apart after that. Surprise surprise. 2nd was a function band. Put a lot of work on on websites, advertising, booking gigs. Seems no one actually wanted to gig. C'est la vie. .

[quote name='cheddatom' timestamp='1481794430' post='3195136'] It wouldn't be unreasonable to ask them to pay for the production [/quote] I was thinking about suggesting he invoiced with a polite letter setting out the hours put in. Thing is; a lot of people can get involved in projects and do stuff they haven't specifically been asked to do. Mainly because they had got too emotionally involved in the project. Difficult call. He's unlikely to get any money might make them realises how much he's put in but also might just make things worse.

All this is assuming the 'stand in guy', is interested in gigging one song every hundred years and can produce etc. If they still want you for your other talents but don't want you as a bass player that frees you up to play in other bands while you arrange and produce this project. If you're that good, you might want to think closely in what they're paying you. Wake-up call? .

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1481569116' post='3193367'] I suspect most of their profit was made on bottled drinks sold via the big super markets anyway? [/quote] No. Bottled drinks are expensive to produce and transport. They can brew beer at pennies a pint.

Don't worry about what the individual pubs make for the landlord. Look at the what the breweries are making and realise why they sub the landlord for the band.

[quote name='mrtcat' timestamp='1481465467' post='3192447'] We don't usually play pubs and generally stick to function work. We have an agent that occasionally contacts us to see if we are available for the odd short notice pub gig. They know that, if we do it, we will only be the 4 core members and that £400 is minimum fee. We replace keys with backing tracks on some songs and we all sing. So far we've had 26 of these gigs this year. Most are Thursday or the odd Friday nights and are just at regular pubs. We get £400 - £500 a time. There's no way the pub covers costs but they just keep coming. Whenever we've asked the landlords how they make it pay they just say that the brewery subsidises. Can't understand the business logic myself but is nice to have these little low pressure bookings to supplement our other work. [/quote] Greene King announced pre-tax profits of £189m in May this year with £2.1bn revenue. That's just one brewer. Make your own conclusions but my theory is they don't trust landlords very much. Kids and sweetshops. There's lots of money there, it's just kept out of the reach of certain people

I met Len_Derby and his wife in a car park once.

I just assumed all the threads were bass players I'd never heard of.

I started packing down once and as I unplugged a mic (the PA was live playing disco music) there was a huge pop. I looked over to the desk to find some idiot playing with the faders. I went over and asked him what he thought he was doing but he was too drunk to answer but his mate said "It's ok, he knows what he's doing, he plays in a band."

Too loud maybe? Offer to do an acoustic setup.

[quote name='dave_bass5' timestamp='1480949951' post='3188300'] We played a wedding in Richmond park a few years ago. After the first set we went outside for some fresh air. Came back to find a "new" band posing for photos. The had asked the singer and he said it was ok (without tell us) but the rest of us all had different reactions. My guitarist hit the roof and was almost crying that soemone had his guitar, my drummer got the hump because soemone had adjusted his cymbals, and i grabbed my camera and thought it was a great photo opportunity lol. Bride, groom and Best man [url=https://flic.kr/p/cptj6C][/url][url=https://flic.kr/p/cptj6C] Janine rocking out[/url] by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/davebass5/]Dave Pearce[/url], on Flickr On a much more serious note, the worst audiences we have played to are your farmers. These dickheads think they won you and your gear while you are there and dont hesitate to rearrange anything they, and their small minded drunk mates can think off. We had one twat try and walk down the venue carrying one of our PA speakers DURING a gig, because he thought it would be a great laugh putting it on his table. [/quote] That's a superb publicity photo. Not sure I'd be too upset about that. Depends how cack handed they were.

[quote name='BassTractor' timestamp='1480877414' post='3187766'] As a classical musician I've never liked typical audiences for classical music, but reading this I may have to reconsider. At least they were never drunk, and they wouldn't wreck the instruments or the stage. [/quote] Have you never played at last night of the proms?

[quote name='mike257' timestamp='1480816324' post='3187338'] Of course, we've yet to solve the trickiest question on this subject... Exactly what does one do with oneself during verses of Alright Now? [/quote] Cowbell. You can never have too much cowbell.

You got paid for doing a [b]Christams party[/b] for [b]care workers[/b]. I bet you even mic'ed up the bass drum. And you wouldn't even let them have a go on your instruments. You're a bloody mercenary Pete. That's what you are. That's for sure. .

We play a venue where the entrance is a corridor onto the side of the 'stage' area. My amp is right next to this coridoor. The last two gigs I've had people put their drinks on top of my stack and lean against it. The first time the stack started to move and topple over. I stopped playing several times to get him to move away only for him to come back again. The second time I noticed all the resonance had gone from the cab and turned around to see what had gone wrong only to find someone leaning on the top. What's wrong with people? If it's not yours don't touch it. Blame it on drink. .

[quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1480582795' post='3185530'] Some very good ideas there BUT don't try some of them unless you've gone wireless. Tying your legs together with your own lead and falling face first into the drum kit is not a good look. I feel I should also point out that crashing your headstock into the mic stand (twice) is not good stagecraft. [/quote] It's ok as long as you don't do a comple 360. Also note when he talks about barriers between you and the audience. (Music stands anyone...) .

I watched this a few weeks ago. It's pretty good and common sense for stage craft. I've implemented quite a bit of it. No dancing required, just some basic ideas. http://youtu.be/eizWNzpcFvU

I'd read the thread again Chris. It happens with all cables. They're not getting pulled out, they're sliding out on their own accord "due to the amp vibrating". The Planet Waves one is worse. If the tip contact has lost its spring it won't latch down behind the tip and the jack will not be held into the socket. It happens with all plugs in that socket but doesn't happen with those plugs in other sockets. Therefore the problem is that socket. It's not difficult to diagnose. .

[quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1480416530' post='3184136'] It's not new, the 750's were superseded by the 800's a few years ago and "back" is somewhere near Chicago. [/quote] Ok. Sounds like the Jack has probably worn over the years then. Just replace it.