TimR

Here's Hendrix playing it properly. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7eonk_jimi-hendrix-all-along-the-watchtow_music

[quote name='vmaxblues' timestamp='1475521021' post='3146627'] its such an unnatural feel that intro, never quite got it, just fall into it... [/quote] Hendrix didn't even play it that way live. Watch some videos and he's very careful to count the drummer in properly. My guess is that in the studio he came in at the wrong time and the drummer realising Hendrix wasn't going to move does a clever switch to pull everything back. I've played with quite a few guitarists like that.

I'm right handed but I've found out I can scratch my right elbow much more effectively with my left hand.

[quote name='lojo' timestamp='1475519569' post='3146603'] Or Neil Young [/quote] Quite. Or maybe Bob Dylan? Just play it properly without Hendrix's mistake.

[quote name='MoonBassAlpha' timestamp='1475447414' post='3146046'] Maybe starting off playing the violin set it in motion as they don't seem to do left-handed ones. [/quote] Left handed violin would be interesting in an orchestra. It's bad enough when people are bowing out of synch.

[quote name='megallica' timestamp='1475333443' post='3145137'] Metallica with cliff in the band played donnington in 1985 also [/quote] I'm quite surprised how early in the 80s it all started. I certainly don't remember them being on my radar until '87

[quote name='lowdown' timestamp='1475348242' post='3145311'] ... [/quote] What happened there? That was Dad's quote!

[quote name='Deerhunter1331' timestamp='1475329007' post='3145090'] To be honest, I'm not sure. I can read sheet music without a problem, but I have never tried to sight read [/quote] You should be able to get the sheet music in advance and take it home. You'll find that a hell of a lot of it will just fall under your fingers. As long as you know your scales and chords the notes will be fairly obvious.

My guess is this is one of those errors that they decided not to bother going back and doing again. We've never played it like that and I doubt anyone in the audience would ever notice. It's not exactly a crucial part of the song. I worry really about people doing covers sometimes. Well, I don't, but you can spend too long agonising over them.

[quote name='MacDaddy' timestamp='1475288260' post='3144807'] Er, it's not. [/quote] I think this thread could be interesting to see who reads the actual link and who just replies to the text in the post.

I'll never understand why people have to compare bands over the ages. They evolve, it's music, we should all evolve otherwise we stagnate. I've been following Merallica since Donnington '87? Arguably the very beginnings of Thrash Metal in the UK? The bass solo in the OP is a master class in why people shouldn't play bass solos, very technical but surprisingly lacking in substance. The bass 'solo' in the intro to the other post is much better, short and to the point. There's a great video on YouTube of the Rob Trullio audition. They compare him to Cliff at one point. He is definitely the man for the job. Metallica don't need to worry too much about their image now, they have a massive and loyal fanbase who love the music and most of us are either approaching or over 50 years old. http://youtu.be/aB0iuRnSjKU

[quote name='visog' timestamp='1475258253' post='3144558'] I'm afraid this is very true: http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/sight-of-band-setting-up-strikes-fear-into-drinkers-hearts-20160930114664 No-one want's to hear a live band now unless they're go on to do a proper DJ set or they're Cold Play? [/quote] Ha. The Mash go off the boil every now and again. I dip in and out but that's one of their better ones.

[quote name='mike257' timestamp='1474982735' post='3142027'] I must be doing something wrong, I've never even had one woman go topless at a gig, never mind that many! [/quote] I'll send you some numbers for some "South coast" gigs.

Just reading into this following a post in another thread. How do you decide how much the PA residual value is when 'buying out' or 'buying in' to a band? Do you just go by second hand market value of get an independant valuation? I'm not sure I would want to 'buy in' to a band PA. I'd probably ask for some kind of projected value and just have a few quid taken off my gig money at each gig.

[quote name='LewisK1975' timestamp='1475154822' post='3143510'] To a certain extent , I think this is OK - the singer is the focal point of the band and 99.99999% of the time, all the average pub audience is actually listening to. If they don't like the song, it'll be immediately apparent in their performance to any discerning audience, it doesn't matter if the band nails it, if the singer ain't delivering, the song will be rubbish, IMHO. [/quote] That's correct up to a point. Our singer won't even listen to a tune he's never heard before as it'll mean he would have to learn it. When I pointed out that the rest of the band had to learn all the other tunes, he replied, "but you're musicians, it's what you do".

Probably not a question but, I'd be looking at their web presence. Facebook, Website, YouTube. That may then lead to a whole host of other questions. I'd also ask about the setlist and whether it was regularly refreshed and kept up to date with current music. I'm happy playing old favourites but I'm finding more and more younger people want 'something they know'. While they do actually know Beatles and Stones, they do want to hear something more modern as well. How early do you get to gigs? I'm ok with an hour and a half, any more than that when it's their choice is a bit of a no no. If it's a wedding that's requesting it, then that's a different matter, but don't want to get to gigs ridiculously early and hang around waiting to go on. .

I've played gigs where fights have broken out, people have been accused of stealing the charity box, drunk 50+ women have gone topless, etc. I just thought it weird that the person running the evening didn't seem to want us there and hadn't really made any effort to contact us to cancel. There are some strange people about. .

[quote name='SICbass' timestamp='1474961954' post='3141749'] I've heard of fights breaking out in pubs, but lesbian sex breaking out is something of a rarity... in my experience. [/quote] I think you must be playing in the wrong pubs.

[quote name='tom1946' timestamp='1474916890' post='3141542'] We never have the problem, not many drunk people at a Methodist Church on a Sunday Morning [/quote] One of the funniest gigs I've played was in a Methodist church hall - a "concert". The man in charge had set all the seats out concert style, the lady in charge arrived and had a word with him, all the seats got moved to the side "for dancing". No alcohol, just tea and coffee and lemonade. During sound check a few of the older people who had arrived early in order to get a good seat, started complaining about the volume. Anyway - from the first note - the place went mad. Straight up and dancing and stayed up for 3 hours. I've never seen anything like it.

[quote name='taunton-hobbit' timestamp='1474901187' post='3141372'] Back in the day (don't snore), I went through a number of gigs where some idiot thought it fun to pull the loudspeaker jacks out of my valve amp - I removed the casings on said plugs and watched as someone copped the full output voltage of my 240watt Orange up their right arm - seemed to do the trick....... [/quote] All 30volts? Truly startling.

[quote name='PaulGibsonBass' timestamp='1474888440' post='3141223'] Exactly that. There's one particular band local to me who aren't terribly good (and have been known to be terrible on occasion) but between them they have loads of friends and every time they play anywhere the place is rammed. People = beer = £ so they're never short of gigs. [/quote] More evidence that musically not being terribly good is not the same as not being entertaining. It's taken me many years to appreciate that.

[quote name='blue' timestamp='1474853409' post='3141054'] Sounds like real low end management to me. Either the alcohol sales were there or not. That's all bar owners I know care about. Blue [/quote] He was just reeling off a load of non-excuses.

[quote name='gary mac' timestamp='1474808099' post='3140637'] Are we talking about a Stevenage hostelry then Tim? [/quote] Within a 30mile radius.

That sounds an odd thing to do. If I was selling something, I'd pass on all the details of any arrangements made and let the new owner decide whether he wanted to continue. Landlords really are an odd bunch.

Last night we played a local gig in a traditional music pub that we've played many times before. The pub has changed hands 4 times in the last 3-4 years. 2 of them in the last 6 months. Things weren't good from the start, the landlord obviously didn't want us there. At the end of the gig he claimed he didn't know how much we were charging, claimed he didn't know whether we were coming or not, claimed he had no way of contacting us. I asked him if he'd looked at us on Facebook or LemonRock as not only are we there, but his pub is there advertising us as playing. He said, yes, he knew he was on lemonrock and had checked us out on Facebook. WTF? The pub has had a big refurb and is much more pleasant place to be. The customer base has completely changed. I suspect (but don't know) he will not be doing live music after Christmas. He's moved the bands into a corner out of the way, the acoustics within the corner aren't good. The heat was unbearable, the front door was wide open, this was playing havoc with the tuning and the guitarist (who I've never seen break a string) broke two strings. Feedback from the crowd was very mixed but generally positive. We had a couple of blokes looming around, no one left, there was some polite applause and lots of people came up afterwards saying how much they'd liked it. The landlord grumbled and said his customers didn't like it and we were to heavy for him. It'll be a shame as the pub has a very long history of live music. Although I suspect the landlord may not last very long there, he may be a 'troubleshooter' put in to turn the pub into a going concern after the last guy messed up pretty badly (cancelled our last gig with a day's notice) and allegedly drank the profits. Was the first time in a while we've had to sign for the money. .