TimR

Pete. You've been seriously ill and spent a lot of time in hospital. You will have lost a lot of muscle mass. You can't expect to get up and do a 3 hour gig just like that. Ask to be referred to a physio. Get some weight bearing excersie routines. Good luck and be patient.

[quote name='RockfordStone' timestamp='1464178416' post='3057243'] is it an established working band doing 4 hours gigs? if not, it is probably going to fold.... the majority of bands do [/quote] I think so. They play a few Beatles numbers as well which are quite popular with the older generation.

I think 'established' doesn't nessecarily mean the band. If the band leader is well known by promoters and known to be able to put a decent project together then that holds a lot more sway. A group of unknown musicians trying to get a foot in the door is nigh on impossible.

[quote name='solo4652' timestamp='1464176896' post='3057216'] 20 years later!? [/quote] That was in response to Rockford's question about not being any established bands without start up bands. The reason start up bands have so much trouble is because a lot of the established bands aren't actually full of people who have been there from day one. So you find a band can get the same gigs and play similar music being effectively an 'established band' but actually have only been playing together for a few months in its current line up. The band I started has no members newer than 4 years ago and the newest member joined last week.

Just join the band I started in 1996. There are now no original members.

That's a good move. At one point I was 'in' 4 bands. One never gigged but rehearsed every couple of weeks. One was starting up and the guitarist was ill. We never more than 3 rehearsals. I'm still waiting 4 years later to find out if the band has folded, whether the guitarist is better or if I've been chucked out. One rehearsed weekly but hardly ever gigged. So I found a 4th who were gigging and rehearsing regularly. Then 'left' the others. Ultimately you can't hang around forever in case something might happen. You have to make your own luck.

The more I think about this, the more I can't see any point in having 9v batteries or supplies anymore. With high power 5v sources about 9v is pretty redundant.

Have you got another band lined up ready to join? If not look for another band. In the mean time I'd suggest to them to take a break until the singer is ready. There's no point in half rehearsing a band.

[quote name='tonyquipment' timestamp='1464100191' post='3056545'] Still gotta consider how many milliamps it will pump out .. It may not be enough to service the draw of the 9 volter [/quote] The USB specs say it should be able to draw 5A if connected to a charging port.

Yes. That's my major beef. Cases and boxes not put back in the cars when they've been emptied. There's usually not much space as it is. I have three large boxes that the lights come in and I religiously put them back in my car once we've set up.

[quote name='tonyquipment' timestamp='1464089186' post='3056422'] Nice idea but 5v to 9v? How many stepper uppers will you need? It will just blow it off the wall won't it ? Now u can probably charge phones from the 9v stepping down but the other way around is just ...entertaining to watch. [/quote] You just need a DC-DC step up. eBay is full of them at c£2.

Very clever idea. You can use one of those powerbank USBs to power your gear instead of messing about with 9v rechargeable batteries and chargers etc. Would be nice if a lot of electronic equipment started to go down the 5v supply route though. Although 5 volt batteries aren't that common. Yet.

Yep. Music is supposed to breathe.

One point is: It's not the drummers job to keep time. It's the musicians' job to be in time with each other. The beat should move slightly, sometimes pushing sometimes holding back otherwise the song doesn't breathe. A lot of musicians, not just drummers, don't seem to get this.

[quote name='troubadour' timestamp='1464001012' post='3055622'] Last gig I had to stand on the stairs . . . [/quote] At the top?

I played with a terrible drummer for years. It was hard work holding them back all the time and trying to provide some kind of groove. One gig I just let them go on one song. We just got faster and faster. Was horrible. The singer had a right go at him at the end of the song. It made no difference and I left. There are tons of band out there playing well. It's very rare to find a perfect drummer, we're all human, but there are plenty of drummers who are not bad.

I worked for a Swedish company. It was all about customer service. Make the customer feel valued and he'll return. We got taken over by a French company, they have a similar ethic but it's not so well implemented.

[quote name='BassTractor' timestamp='1463695178' post='3053508'] Aye, you did. But then I didn't state you hadn't done so. I just stated I hadn't seen it. Sorry for having overlooked it. [/quote] I think it's quite an important point really. Once you double up on cabs you get an increase in bottom end, not necessarily loudness per se. But how the cabs actually behave can be quite interesting. I put a 15" with 2x10s and it was quieter than the 15" and the 2x10 individually. I still recommend bin the 4x10 they're heavy and inefficient. Get a 2x10" or a 2x12" and look at postponing.

[quote name='BassTractor' timestamp='1463681058' post='3053365'] The point that is being made by those who advise to double up with the same types of cab, though I haven't seen that point outspoken in this thread, is that the impedance is a nominal number and that the "real" impedance differs, a.o. with frequency, so the behaviour of the different drivers in combination can not easily be predicted. An impedance raise in one cab at the same frequency range as an impedance drop in the other cab might cause some of the drivers to travel too near their Max. Here's where you need to use your ears. Normally you should be reasonably in the clear as long as you don't press your drivers hard. Sound quality is another matter. Me, just to be sure to not blow my drivers, I use a 9610, and our drummer likes the notion of being able to pick his nose without anybody seeing it. [/quote] I raised that point yesterday at 4:40pm.

No. It is right. The individual speakers in the 4x10 will be a different impedance to the speakers in the 2x10. Each can will present the same load - 8 ohms and the same power will be dispersed in each. .

[quote name='ras52' timestamp='1463656824' post='3053116'] If prog now was like prog was in the 70s, it wouldn't have progressed, would it? [/quote] I always thought the term progressive referred to the music. As in - the actual tunes are progressive in nature, they don't stick to the rigid rock verse/chorus structure and timings. I don't think prog rock has really changed that much. Once the basic idea is there there's not a lot further you can take it.

Forget about the power. That's just what the speakers can take without catching fire. Look at the sensitivity figures. The frequency plots for the two cabs will undoubtably be different. It's not all about all out power. So you can expect all kinds of weirdness going on. As alluded to above. If you're not loud enough with a 4x10 something is wrong with either your EQ or your cab placement.

It's Wednesday afternoon now. My PC that had died last night appears to have resurrected itself from the dead. And I've mended some broken stuff at work. The day just keeps getting better.

It's only Wednesday morning but this week has been pretty good so far.

[quote name='leschirons' timestamp='1463224565' post='3049690'] Sorry if this has been on before but I couldn't resist. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHsjFdsd5lA MJ's Beat it in a major key. I couldn't stop singing "Dance the night away" in the solo. [/quote] That's quite good. Enjoyed it.