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[quote name='ras52' timestamp='1456503843' post='2989787'] Maybe... although Mr Gilmour seems like a no-nonsense guy and I don't imagine he'd hesitate in reining Guy in if he thought it necessary. The thought of using a newfangled five-string might not have occurred when recording the original! [/quote] The original was written and performed by Waters. There are plenty of songs I play E on the seventh fret as that's the direction that the melody is leading. When you play legato notes under a melody, your note choice is very important.

Guy Pratt plays a 5-String on Pulse. In comfortably numb he has gratutitously overused the bottom string. Don't know what note it is but all the chords and the melody line ascends - giving the song a lift, while the bass note tries to drag the song down. That's not an accidental wrong note, that's a bad choice. IMO.

[quote name='Japhet' timestamp='1456408593' post='2988687'] I've always thought of covers as interpretations of other people's songs. I don't try to replicate what somebody else has done and don't listen to songs much before we try them out. I play what I think fits and then have a proper listen to the original. Guitarist does the same and we sometimes prefer what we have come up with. Some bits have t be spot on of course. I once played in a band where the guitarist (who was a complete control freak) once said to me "The bass part doesn't go like that" to which I replied " It f***ing does when I'm playing it". I think tribute bands need to be as close as possible to the original, but covers? Would be bored stupid trying to get everything note for note. [/quote] Quite. What did musicians do before recording was invented?

[quote name='colgraff' timestamp='1456179686' post='2986429'] The interview was a good 25+ years ago so my memory isn't great, but I think this was in the context of the band are good to go, but Mr Bowie might get the verses wrong, forget the words, etc. and how o keep the show running smoothly when that happens. After all, with his history of drug abuse it was probably a wise contingency. [/quote] Sure. Maybe if you've put a band together just for a tour and they're not used to playing together you might need to discuss a general 'understanding' between everyone. Maybe which tunes you stop and start again and which tunes you just carry on regardless. However, I suspect there is a huge 'control' factor going on with a lot of the stars. I played with a bit of an egomaniacal keyboard/singer/songwriter, the amount of micro-managing he did to each song was unreal, and totally unjustified IMO, but then it's his show and he's paying the players. Different strokes etc...

[quote name='colgraff' timestamp='1456078468' post='2985182'] Re LED heat. I love that LEDs give off virtually no heat. As I get older, I appreciate cooler stages. Having said that, it took me a little time to remember not to look directly at an LED light. Going temporarily blind adds an entertainingly random element to my playing. [/quote] I used to have some colour bars that were incredibly bright. I try to get them as high up as possible. I plugged a leaser in once and then pushed the stand up while it was on. Got a face full of laser effects as it went past. Thought I'd done irreparable damage to my eyes!

[quote name='Maude' timestamp='1456075953' post='2985155'] I used to use a pair of kitchen lights, the round type with three individually angled spotlights. Put different coloured bulbs in them and a length of cable with a three pin plug. One either side of the stage, one colour aimed across the floor, one colour aimed at the ceiling and the other at the drum kit, looked really good all for about thirty quid. Was ok until a drunk bloke fell over and put his hand on top of the bulbs to help himself up, the bits of skin left on the bulbs smelt horrible not that problem with LEDs nowadays. [/quote] Yes. I did get a bit jumpy at some gigs. Always worried about using 'homemade' gear. Wondering about getting it PAT tested and whether it's covered under PLI.

I wouldn't even consider playing a wedding or party with our current set. Having said that; we have played two parties for 'fans'. So they knew what they wanted and got exactly that. We just aren't a funk/party/pop band. And conversely the function band I was in wouldn't even consider playing a pub. YMMV .

[quote name='gary mac' timestamp='1456007920' post='2984556'] Felt really sorry for him that night. [/quote] Embarrassing all round. Wonder why they didn't cancel.

I haven't seen the foot-c yet but usually the 6 channels would refer to the number of channels on each page. That means that if you set your fixture to address 1 you use channels 1-6 on the foot controller page 1, then channel 7 will be the first one on page 2. Ideally you would then set the next fixture to address 13 and the foot controller would then control that fixture from 13-18 (page 3) and 19 would be channel 1 on page 4. That should keep it more simple. Hope that makes sense. Usually fixtures are 6 or 12 channel. I would set the fixtures to 4 channel mode and get the Footc to do the fade and strobe. Each fixture then fits on one page. .

It's amazing what you can build with a bit of imagination. Before the days of LED I built some light boxes. Painted the boxes black and fitted 240v standard ceiling lamp holders and coloured bulbs. Tilt towards the band and no one is any the wiser.

[quote name='gary mac' timestamp='1455989669' post='2984366'] I wonder if that's the band I auditioned for a few years back in Buntingford. It was quite a weird audition, with the drummer throwing up in a bin behind his kit. I didn't get the gig. [/quote] Ha no. I'm playing with them now. He's a really good drummer and an all round nice guy. He remembers that night. This was a band a long time ago now.

[quote name='ubit' timestamp='1455971486' post='2984085'] Trouble is, he is also my longest serving mate. Not really on the cards to chuck him out [/quote] I left 'my' band in the end as the co-founder of 10years was just getting worse. He was convinced it was everyone else. If the audience are complaining and you're not building a following because of him then you either get rid of him or you leave. Or you just put up with being in a band that's going nowhere. 'My' band is still going but they beg for gigs and don't get repeat bookings. They seem to be happy. .

[quote name='colgraff' timestamp='1455959919' post='2983900'] I remember seeing a Bowie interview around Serious Moonlight time. In it he mentioned the importance of having everything perfectly scripted for the live show. For EVERY song, there was a contingency plan for fluffs such as his forgetting a line or singing the wrong verse. [/quote] That seems a bit of an odd thing to spend time doing. I'd rather concentrate on rehearsing the tunes that are likely to go wrong so that they don't. Effective rehearsing is an art to itself. I've spent too long in bands who will only play the songs from start to finish. A complete waste of rehearsal time. You should be able to pick up a song just before it crashed and rehearse that same few bars several times so that everyone gets it into their muscle memory.

I have a Boss graphic EQ pedal and a Boss Chorus pedal. I also have an old Zoom 506. I haven't used any of them in about 10years. I can't justify them to myself - let alone to you guys.

Ah. Doh! It's only the controller that's WiFi. All the processing and mixing is done in the mixer. Hard wired. If the wifi crashes it's no biggie, the hardware must just stay at its last known settings. Obvious really.

[quote name='vsmith1' timestamp='1455878362' post='2983163'] There are different wireless technologies: the wireless tablet/smartphone to desk is using WiFi. The Bluetooth headset is a different wireless. Most wireless IEM use another set of wireless technologies. None of the desks mentioned have Bluetooth, so on that basis I'd say no you could not just use a Bluetooth headset. I also recall that the latency for Bluetooth is greater than what is usually used for wireless IEMs. And latency, i.e. that time delay between sound creation and hearing will be a big issue for IEMs. [/quote] Thanks. I just googled Bluetooth IEM and the latency is 26-40ms! So are there wifi IEMs- more googling...

How do the iem work? Can you just use Bluetooth headsets?

[quote name='Norris' timestamp='1455743863' post='2982107'] It's not just me then. Our songs are picked from a list as we go. The guitarist will often just tear into the opening riff and we just follow along [/quote] I dream of being in a band like that. I used to play gigs with my dad (keys player), you'd get four bars intro, then the drums and bass pick it up.

[quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1455703572' post='2981534'] If your slow song loses the flow and energy of the set you've either picked the wrong slow number or you're playing it wrong. I'll usually suggest any slow numbers (one per set, max) go somewhere in the middle of the set. I think starting a pair of encore numbers with a slow number can work. [/quote] Yes. Far too many bands think the secret to keeping a crowd going is by bombarding their audience with fast and loud music. Light and shade. Tension and release. That's what music is all about.

He bought a $2m 'starter mansion' and spent $xm on refurb, then was selling it for $20m. Allegedly they spent $750k on 4 gold plated toilets. Wonder how much of the debt I real and how much is underwritten by assets. My personal debt is about 5x my annual income. I'm guessing he pulls in more than $10m a year. Plus he's with Kim Kardasian isn't he? This is a very odd news story. That's the problem with social media. It can so easily be just stream of concious ramblings... Probably a bit like this post...

Dependson the type of gig. If it's a pub gig where people are watching then space them out a bit two in the first set one mid way through the second. If it's a party stick all three together about 2/3rds through an hour and a quarter set.

I'd had enough of Maiden by the mid 90s. Had seen them several times by then. Live they're an amazing band (or were, I saw them at the O2 in 2012? and wasn't too impressed.) Marrilliion have also lost some sparkle since the mid 90s. Not so sure about Rush. They tend to be ever so slightly different. There's almost an imperceptible shift between one album and the next. But I think that's academic now if they're packing it in (unless that's just playing live?)

I have three 'tone' knobs on my active bass that cut or boost centred on different frequencies. I have tried fiddling with them. In the end they just stay centred. I do have the balance between the P and the J pickup slightly towards the P though.

[quote name='Bassassin' timestamp='1455015623' post='2974963'] Personalised, having spent 15-odd years in a band that couldn't attract flies to a sh!t fight. Jon. [/quote] Yes. If people don't come back to see you play a second time and aren't asking when you're playing next, you probably need to ask some serious questions.

You guys need some new friends.