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[quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1447112786' post='2905059'] This. ^^^ In fitter times I would often go out with a buddy, helping out with his PA/lighting business. We took great pains to make sure that nothing untoward could happen in even pretty extreme probabilities, including crash barriers and limiting public access to delicate zones, even when those delicate zones were, themselves, made very secure. Lashing down, wire guys, double fixture slings, protected or buried cable runs... The list is long. We never had an incident of any kind, partly due to the care taken in avoidance. Not easy in crowded pub situations, but being lucky because it's only a bent stand isn't an option. Next time it could be far, far worse, but it's too late then, isn't it..? Insurance will only cover if all due care and attention has been carried out. Tops on a tripod accessible by the public would definitely not count as 'due care and attention'. Just sayin'. [/quote] It's a case of what is practical. Tops on tripod stands is a standard way of setting up. What additional steps you take for a temporary three hour gig has got to be proportionate. You're not going to spend an hour lashing down speakers that are going to be in place for three hours max. Positioning them in front of the band where people wouldn't be expected to be is good enough. If people are going to get drunk and fall over then there's insurance to argue that for you.

Buy a new neck.

I tend to avoid all celebrity culture. To the point where people are saying names to me and I'm just thinking 'never heard of them' to myself while looking at them blankly hoping they'll talk about something interesting. Unless they're in the national papers I have no idea who is in what band, football team, soap or all three. If Bono etc are sounding off, it all becomes just a lot of white noise. The Celebrity Jungle thing starts this week, I'll have to put up with the office talking about people I've never heard of doing things on a TV program I didn't watch. There are only a very few celebrities I would recognise in the street. My brain is full of more important stuff. Probably.

Oh God - it's the female equivalent of JedWard! They're obviously upset enough about it that they've using a photo of it on their FaceBook page. Warning: some pictures of half naked girls: https://m.facebook.com/TheSoapGirls/

Excellent. Glad to be of help.

From memory there are buttons probably labelled 1-8,9-15, 16-23 etc or something. I'll check. Edit: page A and B toggles between 1-8 and 9-16 for each scanner. Each scanner is 16 channels.

Assuming you have the right DMX address set in the controller and the KAM. Mode. Then A. http://www.kam.co.uk/media/file/product/manual/Kam%20LED%20Powerbar%20Manual%20v1%2023-03-10_web.pdf

Set Chanel 1 to 0 Chanel 2 is your master fade Chanel 3 is strobe - set to 0 Chanel 4,5,6 is RGB for spot 1 Chanel 7,8,9 is RGB for spot 2 Chanel 10,11,12 RGB for spot 3 Chanel 13,14,15 RGB for spot 4

Another nightclub fire with insufficient/blocked fire exits.

[quote name='gary mac' timestamp='1399971695' post='2449387'] May be some of them are hoping to get spotted by people/bands looking for a bassist. [/quote] This is why I would do it. Not in the hope, but as a promo video to point people to. Maybe link to it via bandmix. If that's possible. We have band clips for landlords to watch (a lot of them are requesting them now) so why not personal promos?

[quote name='ubit' timestamp='1445774591' post='2893992'] I used to laugh at people's faces when I wheeled the 9 stone monster into small pubs. They see big speakers and they think, f***! They are gonna be loud! They don't realise that you don't have to crank it all the way. [/quote] You don't have to but it's very hard to fine tune the volume at low levels on a big powerful setup. I tend to set my rig at 4, the difference between 3.5 and 4.5 is huge.

[quote name='Horizontalste' timestamp='1445603566' post='2892750'] In the book he makes a connection with the 10000 hour theory & the relationship that has with age. Apparently at birth we are primed to learn (don't think we can argue with that) & Myelin production is at its greatest during our childhood, teens & into our early twenties. I can see how this is relevant & I'd imagine anyone who started playing later in life or anyone who's tried to learn a second language past 30 could probably relate. [/quote] I was going to mention the 10,000 hour theory. You have to learn from your mistakes, just repeating them is no good. Even not making any mistakes in the first place is no good either. So you have to apply yourself and stretch yourself. Being naturally good at something and simply repeating what you're naturally good at wont make you any better. Which I guess is self evident.

[quote name='ambient' timestamp='1445537053' post='2892287'] I find it baffling . Why would you want to play at such a volume, that you need hearing protection, which then makes it quieter anyway . [/quote] So that the audience can't talk. Keep up!

Simply buy an old Cortina estate, load the Fridge into the back, throw a tartan rug over it and park it out of sight round the corner. The Mrs will never know.

Here's a list of 300, enjoy. http://www.setlisthelper.com/blog/popular-cover-songs/

So the volume of the band has to be appropriate to the venue and the audience requirements. The band is providing a service, the landlord and audience are the customers. It's not about what I or you want, it's about what they want. If they want it loud then play loud, but don't complain or argue when the landlord or audience want it quieter. I've never been asked to turn up. Paul's comment about sound checking from the back of the room is spot on. Why do you want it loud at the back. Surely you want it loud where you want the audience to stand. Then the people who don't want it loud can stand further away but still be in the room. I had that argument for years with a drummer who said we were too quiet at the back of the room. Considering he was sitting behind his drums behind the band and behind the PA I'll still can't work that one out. And the drummer is the guy we're setting our volume to? Something is wrong. .

Some people really have a strange view of their importance. We're not there to force people to listen to us. If people don't want to listen to the music we're playing then I suggest it's not their fault.

[quote name='PaulWarning' timestamp='1445440660' post='2891509'] I'm always left shaking my head in disbelief when I see bands micing up the drumkit for a small pub gig, yes people want to hear the music but they also want to be able to order drinks at the bar and have a shouted conversation as well. [/quote] Yep. If you want people dancing down the front with the band, turn down. If you want them lined up against the far wall, turn up.

[quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1445439245' post='2891494'] Rock has never been about what is "appropriate". As I was told one night, if the venue isn't telling you to turn down you're not too loud. One of my favourite gigs was playing in a duo with an acoustic Ragtime guitarist, but I also loved playing with the Led Zep band. When I saw the barman at the back of the room taking all the bottles off the glass shelves I knew my rig was working as intended. [/quote] Well then that was appropriate for that venue.

Usual way to do outdoor PA like this is 100v line transformers. You could probably hire a decent setup for the day and have something that does the job properly quite cheaply.

Music should be at an 'appropriate' volume for the venue. That is NOT as loud as you can get before feedback.

[quote name='cheddatom' timestamp='1445352525' post='2890825'] Yeh I don't think you need intent E.G my dishwasher makes a very musical beat [/quote] Yes. So music isn't created it's perceived. Doesn't matter what the creator intended, it's what the audience thinks that matters.

I'd say it was the opposite of what we think and that our emotions have a massive bearing on it. Sounds you hear become imprinted on your brain when you are in certain moods and you associate those moods with those sounds. For example if your mother picked you up and cuddled you during a thunderstorm you associate thunderstorms as cuddly sounds. If your first experience was being caught out in a storm with loads of people panicking then the opposite happens. It explains better why you can't physically quantify why different people prefer different music. And why different cultures' music differs so much.

Free gig bag? For £12.5k I'd want a hardcase made from Norwegian Wood.

[quote name='ras52' timestamp='1445270046' post='2890109'] You don't even have to transpose... I for one would think of a piece in D flat minor as being somehow "softer" than the same piece in C sharp major. [/quote] That's a completely different scale not just different key.