TimR

[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1418717516' post='2632526'] I don't think they want those numbers from pub bands...that is just what they get because bands can be lazy and give the set no thought. Of course, there is a point of diminshing returns as pubs pay poor money.so players go after better gigs, ..but that doesn't mean at all, that function bands are always better as I know plenty- well, more than a few that wouldn't/couldn't get work elsewhere- it just means that a poor band is a poor band anywhere. And bands that take the easy way with 'classic' sets probably have no other cards to play anyway. I am always 'amazed'...well, again, not really, that bands don't put any effort in, go for the lowest common denominator set list and then still wonder why no one notices them... They are the bands that people should walk out on.... But it is funny... and I do take note of this... certain bands do ok in some towns and bomb in others and the main reason for that is the set... but bands that have more about them than just the set, get by most places, IME. [/quote] Judging from results so far in the BassChat ultimate top 40. We're not all actually playing the same songs. That's quite an outdated view. In fact we can only, so far, agree on 23 songs .

[quote name='lojo' timestamp='1418713325' post='2632491'] A well rehearsed product, I'm sure it was amazing live, I don't like all the yo yo come on gee up vocals though Next year your company can save £5000 and we will get everyone dancing the stage and sound might be a bit emptier mind [/quote] You can bet that they paid a lot more than £8k for them the weekend before Christmas in Central London!

Prices start from £7980. That's $12500 http://www.alivenetwork.com/bandpage.asp?bandname=Get%20Funked

[quote name='drTStingray' timestamp='1418685745' post='2632429'] ... don't want any of the people dancing waltzes tripping up because I've forgotten its in 3/4 lol!! [/quote] That brings back horrible memories when a band I was in learned it for a gig as a request. Car crash - drummer argued 3/4 was the same as 6/8 and insisted on paying it as a march. But without the swing.

WEEK 2. Top 23. One new entry - white wedding. 1. Teenage Kicks (7) 2. Superstition (6) =. Dakota. 4. Sex on Fire (5) 5. Mr Brightside (4) =. Pretty Vacant. =. Brown Sugar. 8. American Idiot (3) =. All the Small Things =. Valerie 11. All Right Now (2) =. Jumping Jack Flash =. Proud Mary =. Mercy =. Soul Man =. Time Warp =. Tommy Gun =. Can't Explain =. Rock Away Beach =. Hey Joe =. Substitute =. All Day and All of the Night. =. White Wedding. .

These them? Sound like a pro function band. Not 'raw' enough for me. Bit sterile... http://youtu.be/eoMlqobSKf0

[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1418637451' post='2631810'] But as a sum of parts it is pretty important. It is pleasing when the audience tell you that the sound was very good..could hear everything etc etc .. and since I tape most of the gigs, I get a pretty good idea back as well. [/quote] It's the sum of the parts that is important not the individual sound. We see countless threads about people who get their sound at home but can't replicate it in the practice room. Extend this further from getting it right in a practice room (where the acoustics are still fairly controllable) to a pub gig and you face very similar problems.

I've only played at one venue who asked us for a receipt and to sign for the money. Everywhere else has dealt purely in cash.

Pub bands usually get the money at the end of the gig from the landlord/manager. The money is shared out during the pack down. We used to do the same at weddings. Band leader received the brown envelope discretely from the best man then counted it all out on the stage into 7 nice piles in front of all the guests...

[quote name='chaypup' timestamp='1418295996' post='2628852'] I think 'someone' has been playing a great big joke, that most here have missed. [/quote] I thought that was obvious from the start. BeardyBob joined in 2010 and only has 24posts, all in the last two weeks...

One guy I know, who had heard all the apprentice stories, then had a stand up argument when his boss asked him to get a knot of sash cord.

[quote name='icastle' timestamp='1418179507' post='2627758'] Well... there is this guitarist he knows... [/quote]

At some point you realise why you're gigging. I'm guessing that the awesome bass tone is probably not one of the top reasons your band has been asked to play, or the reason why people are coming to see you. Just saying...

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1418134322' post='2627167'] I notice that M*st*ng S*lly is conspicuous by its absence from the chart!! Is [i]everyone[/i] completely sick of it? [/quote] That's what I was thinking. I'm surprised to see Superstition as I thought that would be an unusual tune. I was beginning to think the same of Dakota but it seems to have seen a late rally.

That and fretboard gazing.

[quote name='Weststarx' timestamp='1418120408' post='2626946'] ... apart from my 4x10, I would take another one but I cant get it in my car! ... [/quote] I use 2 2x10"s.

Reminds me of this one: http://www.transum.org/Software/SW/Starter_of_the_day/starter_June19.asp

[quote name='xgsjx' timestamp='1418113567' post='2626863'] This bit doesn't add up. If he gives you the tops, the difference between the value of all the cabs & the value of the amps is £63, right? So if you sell them for what he estimates and he sells the amps, then you're £63 down on what he gets. Now you pay yourself £63 out of that??? What make is the sub? [/quote] He is going to give him all the speakers plus £63. If the valuation is correct it means that Neptunehealer is £30 up on the deal due to the guitarists poor logic. But that's assuming the valuation is fair. .

[quote name='lojo' timestamp='1418109488' post='2626838'] 2nd hand gear is not always gonna fetch a good price, his costing might be correct , though his keeping of chosen parts leaving you having to make sales seems unfair Going legal might give you more headaches and upset than it's worth, might be worth walking away and getting on with something new and positive. Having said that if you think he's being a knob and you want to put pressure on him, then around £60 to start a small claim against him might be worth it (he'll have to responed and make a case) [/quote] Thing is he's already admitted what he thinks the gear is worth in writing. Ask him for the £570. You could tell him if it goes to small claims they'll just tell you both to sell it straight away and split the money anyway. With no guarantee that it will fetch what you think.

[quote name='neptunehealer' timestamp='1418082153' post='2626797'] Best way to sell a PA speaker? any advice on that? In terms of shipping and website. [/quote] Really you need to find someone who already has an amp and a mixer and needs speakers.

[quote name='skidder652003' timestamp='1418057849' post='2626401'] never needed a spare (yet!), never broken a string either, but could blag through the song on different string surely? More worried about amp failure so a good DI pedal more important IMO [/quote] Try it. It's quite tricky but not impossible. I busted a machinehead on the e string once. I take a spare. Even if it's an old secondhand cheapo bass it's something.

[quote name='Hugh971' timestamp='1418076549' post='2626730'] His calculations actually seem to make sense there. And if he's right then I'd say that's reasonable as he's giving you aprox half of the equipment and throwing in the monetary difference. If you post what the gear is then we can actually tell you what's reasonable. Hugh [/quote] Gear total worth c£1140. Half that is £570. Speakers worth £540. Leaves £30.

[quote name='neptunehealer' timestamp='1418077090' post='2626741'] I need to know the make and model etc. I asked him for these and he said 'don't you trust me'! as if. So he never gave them me. He isn't giving me the money, he wants to give me the speakers so i have to sell myself. Or could i use them and just buy a mixing desk to get another PA? [/quote] You'll need an amp and mixer. Which second hand will cost you... ...about £600.

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1418076338' post='2626726'] Well he is the drummer, lol. I doubt singing drummers are allowed anyway are they? [/quote] I played in a band where the drummer was the singer. Really good as the drummer never complained he couldn't hear the singer and the singer never complained they couldn't hear themselves because the drums were too loud. Although he did use a music stand.

Don't forget. Microphones, leads, mic stands, speaker stands. What speakers are they? How hard have they been gigged? £540 for five year old passive subs and tops? Same goes for mixer and amp.