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[quote name='lurksalot' timestamp='1394315506' post='2390303'] I am probably a bit wide of the mark , but the room has a massive, if not definitive, influence on the sound , and if the tone is the quality , timbre and effects that together make the sound then the tone is at the mercy of the room , never mind the influence of the tone of any other instruments that are playing at the same time . [/quote] You generally have no control over the room acoustics though.

Entwistle and Lee both spent years tinkering with guitars and amps to find that elusive tone they were/are looking for. It starts with the player and moves down the chain. If the noise coming from the player isn't right to start with, it doesn't matter what you do to that sound, you can't make it sound better. Player->strings->pickups->wood?->amp->cab A chain is as strong as it's weakest link.

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1394199798' post='2389079'] ... Would you recognise a Geddy Lee bass line from a Rush song you'd never heard before if it was in isolation and not as part of the overall music? ... [/quote] It's hard enough to recognise his tone on an isolated bass track when you know it's him. He sounds like a bag of spanners falling down the stairs. Terrible technique.

[quote name='RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE' timestamp='1394226766' post='2389430'] Tried one or two . However, after downloading various applications you must pay to complete transfer. Costs around £18 or 56 dollars. Times are hard. Is there a cheaper alternative ? [/quote] Which Classic is it? The older ones are seen as an external hard drive when plugged into a PC that doesn't have iTunes. You just copy tunes back. I've used irip in the past but looks like you have to pay for it now.

[quote name='steve-bbb' timestamp='1393666533' post='2383051'] thanks - just that i think we might be using someone who is a general PAT tester rather than music equipment specific so didnt want them to be blagging that certain items need testing and adding loads of extra unnecessary items to up the invoice [/quote] They'll just treat your amps as television, computer or AV kit. It would be like trying to test a SCART or USB lead. A 'full' test on 'kettle' leads and 'part' test on earth continuity on amps.

[quote name='icastle' timestamp='1393708647' post='2383682'] As we've seen in Basschat topics on numerous occasions... [/quote] Good spot. Lol.

Condensation forms on cold surfaces. You need to insulate and heat the space. If it's not insulted you'll be wasting your time heating it. Then you need to make sure it's ventilated but not so much that you lose the heat. Dry lining with foil backed plasterboard and a 2" air gap should do it. You'll lose about 3" off each side of the room though.

The band formed in 1980 and released 3 studio albums. Their first live concert was in 1997. Live means. Guitar, 4 vocalists, 2 keyboard players, bass player plus a shed load of electronic drums and other stuff. As I say, she was working hard. They could easily have just sequenced the drums and keys and sung along to them.

I don't know. But Berenice Scott was working like a Trojan at the back glueing the whole performance together. Running samples, drum machine, keys etc. Not sure how much is live bass and how much is overlayed synth. http://www.berenice-scott.co.uk

Saw them on Friday night at Camden Jazz cafe. Great show.

That really depends. I suppose the aim would be to check everything works then leave the stage and come back to create a definite difference between setting up and performing. We don't necessarily get that opportunity when playing pubs. We arrive, some people are there, we set up, people arrive while we're setting up. We make noise, the singer arrives, says hello, buys a beer, plugs in his mic, says "one, two" and off we go. I'm sure I the London philharmonic make quite a racket before kicking off. Some might say it's all part of the build up to the performance. I know there's a fine line between checking the hi-hat hasn't moved 5mm and your amp hasn't blown up while you were waiting to go on and practicing the first four bars of the first tune at full volume.

[quote name='CamdenRob' timestamp='1392971230' post='2374701'] ... In this situation the basslines for the incoming player after you were obviously good though... It would be different if you joined this band and the previous basslines were crap, you could write much better ones, but you had to play the old lines anyway... People who had never seen the band would turn up to a gig and think "that guys basslines are sh*t" and you would have no control over it... they aren't even your lines. Not much good if there happens to be a guy in the audience looking for a bassist for his awesome new start originals band. [/quote] Not sure about that. Would you join a band who played music that you didn't think was good? Basslines are by definition pretty simple things for a bass player to come up with, improve on and copy. As I say there were a few lines I couldn't play. This was more down to the fact that they weren't natural for me, they may have been awesome, but I had to change them. A few people who knew the band well complimented me on my playing, no one noticed, or at least commented, that they were different.

[quote name='CamdenRob' timestamp='1392892515' post='2373822'] ... I'd imagine it's different with covers bands, but with originals bands I always think once you lose a member you should basically start a fresh with material. Otherwise you end up with the situation of bringing someone in with zero creative influence over what they play on your back catalogue. No-one I know who is looking to play originals would want to play a load of basslines written by someone else. I've only every worked with projects where I have absolute control over what I'm playing, if they don't like what I'm doing they can find someone who plays what they do like and I'll move on ... [/quote] Funnily enough I depped for an originals band. They gave me a load of tunes to learn, which I did but quite a few of the tunes I couldn't play exactly as their previous bass player. They preferred what I played. Which was humbling. Their old bass player even said he'd liked what I'd done to them, which felt a bit weird. I created a bass line for a new tune and then when they found a permanent player, he learned it note for note and they recorded it. Again quite humbling. I suppose what I'm saying is that originals bands setlists evolve and if they're creative enough songs get replaced fairly regularly. So it's worth learning a few because you'll be writing new stuff soon and the old stuff will get played less.

Only one band kept going after I left. I bumped into them playing at a friends birthday party. I thought it was bad enough being paid to cover the drummers 4 1/2 beat bars and stop him speeding up through every song. But being in the audience was another experience entirely. Their next bass player didn't last long either. Well shot of them, no idea how I stayed so long.

[quote name='White Cloud' timestamp='1392929368' post='2374444'] Or she! Careful, there are lots of great female players here. Well, never mind chinese fare...some consider MIM Fenders to be cheap copies when compared to the golden oldies [/quote] Edited I think the point is the subject is being fooled into thinking they're playing a great instrument, when they're not.

Isn't the placebo effect where a player is given a cheap Chinese copy and told it's a '63 Fender and plays better with it because they believe it's a real Fender. EDIT: For gender equality

That's a control issue. It happens in every industry. I'll give my boss a perfect excel spreadsheet. He'll look over it and ask for changes. The changes make absolutely no difference except they say to me he is the boss.

[quote name='waynepunkdude' timestamp='1392909708' post='2374070'] James Corden isn't funny no matter what the space, ... [/quote] Regardless of the celebrity hosting it. I don't think I've seen one where the host hasn't looked incredibly nervous. Even And and Dec or Chis Evans who should have been in their element. No one seems to know what's going on or exactly what the role of the host seems to be. Could be a lot slicker when you see what other awards ceremonies do.

I didn't see any screaming fans. So it may seem that they're talking only to the TV cameras and no one else in their eye line is listening. Very rude. Chuck them all out.

James Cordon was on radio 2 yesterday morning saying he wasn't going to do it again. He essentially said the space has no atmosphere. It doesn't really matter how funny you try to be everything just falls flat. I think the fear showed in his face. He knew the burning arm thing wouldn't work. The whole thing is stage managed very poorly, no one seems to know what's going on. I suspect half the floor is full of celebs on their best behaviour but trying to be edgy and the other half is full of their yes men.

My only issue with bands doing sets longer than an hour is the noise. They get louder and louder and as they get more tired the music gets sloppier and sloppier. The audience's ears get tired. Really you owe it to yourselves and the audience to put on a professional performance.

Active or passive? Seems a lot of people are concerned about running power all over the stage, which is a problem with both setups if you're using stage lights. I've made some 4way black extension leads with 1m leads. Then I have a bunch of 1, 3 and 5m 2way extension leads which mean we can set up in pretty much any way in any space and keep the mains leads as short and tidy as possible.

I found the manual for the behringer wasn't particularly clear. Took about three or four gigs to work out what it was capable of doing then it worked like a dream.

Two 45min sets and an hour set with two 15min breaks.

[quote name='dannybuoy' timestamp='1392737565' post='2372147'] Not seen the programme yet, but hopefully they just pointed her towards the homeopathic remedies! [/quote] Lol. She went to the natural remedy shop and asked for placebo pills. They thought she was mad. The ethics committe would only allow the trail to run for three weeks. After that her symptoms came back. Mad.