TimR

[quote name='molan' timestamp='1373488613' post='2138287'] Forgot to add corporate functions are often a bitch to play - good money but not always that much fun [/quote] It stops being a group of mates playing for fun and becomes a professional outfit.

They also do the PAR64 version for an rxtra £10. 8" and 180 leds instead of 7" and 150 leds. I'm using 2 64s and 2 56s. One of each either side of the band up as high as possible on T bar stands £25 from maplin. I've seen pics and video of the band and they give enough for good mood lighting without overpowering. Depends what you want. I did have a controller but found it was easier just to let them do their own thing. I'll probably go for two more 64s up high on the stands and put the 56s down on the floor as uplighters to catch the drum stands.

Play more pubs, travel away from your home town a bit. If you're good, word will get round and you'll be asked.

It really depends on how the kick is tuned. Again it's the room that influences what frequencies have to be cut so you're usually limited in that respect. Outside gigs are different. The soundman will have a bunch of default, always go to, settings that he knows will work with his gear in that type of room. He's no different to us knowing which frequencies to cut on our rigs for problem stages. When I saw Rush at Birmingham last month I'm sure what Geddy wanted, what he could hear and what we could hear (depending where we were standing) were a thousand different bass sounds. Once the strings and keys kicked in it was mush.

I found my latest band through bandmix. They're pretty good. 2 gigs done and 4 more booked. You have go wade through a lot of no hopers and the obvious time wasters and tyre kickers like any joining process. The band I joined previously were through word of mouth, recommendations and people I'd played with before. It never got past 4 rehearsals...

[quote name='Jazzneck' timestamp='1373009278' post='2132646'] My abject apologies Tim - I didn't realise that I had to answer my own questions....... ... [/quote] That's not quite what I meant, usually people post to discuss things. Just seemed to me that you had fired out a pretty common question then run away. That's all. Almost trolling

Jazzneck, you start a post then don't reply? This is a pretty common topic here. What exectly sounded 'the same'? The FOH can only change a few things. Compression, reverb, and EQ. The mixer, power amps and speakers are going to be exactly the same - and technically should be fairly transparent. If you are DIing the only thing that will be majorly different is the player and the bass. Talk to the engineer about what you want to hear otherwise he will use his experience to dial in something that he knows will work on his gear at that venue.

As long as the monitors are good then I'm all for DI'ing. I've done this at practices lots of times. Live is a bit more of a problem as the mains have to be able to cope. Monitors, I would be happy to pay for my own and just have a FOH mix in it. Essentially a band with their own PA don't gain anything because you either need a powerful monitor and mains or a decent bass rig. However, you don't need both

You just mix the wet and dry so that when you play up the octave it all sounds good. Then you play the whole tune up an octave on the bass and let the octaver play all the bass notes. Thickens up everything.

Everyone develops at different rates according to their needs. If you'd been playing in a band reading from charts you'd have searched this out a long time ago.

[quote name='Ian Savage' timestamp='1372777224' post='2129823'] What are people filling the fret slots with when de-fretting? I smell a summer project coming on... [/quote] I used plaster polyfilla. Would probably use proper wood filler if I did it again. The proper way is to use thin strips of wood and open up the slots first with a tenon or fret saw. Then cut the strips down with a knife and sand.

[quote name='alyctes' timestamp='1372720230' post='2129235'] If you do do a defret, remember to change the nut [/quote] Why is that?

[quote name='xilddx' timestamp='1372687350' post='2128552'] ... TimR - I'm not surprised most women listen to lyrics moreso than most men. Also, apparently, women are likely to ask where you're from, unlike men who tend to ask what you do. [/quote] Yes. Like most sweeping generalisations you need context. I would probably go further and say that the lyrics of certain songs will probably appeal more to women than men and vice versa. Those sing along songs tend to be pretty basic. 500 miles? Delilah? Even Summer of 69, and Livin' on a Prayer. Very basic story type lyrics. Men can do stories. I'm struggling to think of 'Women' type songs because , huh, I don't really listen to the lyrics. Although if I'm in a melancholy mood I often will and then I start to notice the different meanings some songs can have depending on how you interpret them. Look for an artist who appeals equally to Men and Women and you'll find some pretty straightforward lyrics with some very subtle underlying message...

Lots of studies have been done on this. In general, and this will be no surprise to most people: Women listen to the words. Men listen to the music.

That's a beautiful story mate. Shows what can be achieved with some drive, enthusiasm and a bit of creativity.

[quote name='sprocketflup' timestamp='1372368229' post='2125060'] I defretted an old 5 string with a shovel and angle grinder and it sounds lovely You lot must have better ears than mine [/quote] Indeed. I just used a big screwdriver, hammer and mole grips then filled the slots and gouges with Polyfilla. It was unplayable before and now it sounds gorgeous.

There's a thread with naked female bassists in it? How did I miss that?

You still have to meet the minimum payment each month. On £2500 that's going to be around £50. Which would take about 5 years, although the more you pay off the less the minimum payments are and the less you pay and the longer the loan lasts. So set up a DD for that £50 don't just pay the minimum. Then the c3% charge for balance transfer every year. The first year it'll be about £60 which will extend the time it takes to pay back. Essentially doing this after 4 years you end up still owing £500 for a bass that's 4 years old, would it still be worth £500? Are you getting £50 a month worth of pleasure/work out of it?

I've had so many strange things happen at weddings it would fill a book. Usually the Bride or Mother of the Bride try to micro manage everything. Usually they have no idea how long things will take and have completely unrealistic expectations of how everything should slot together seamlessly. Although it's not the band's job, after you've done a few weddings you find yourself steering them in the right direction. Things happen at weddings in a certain order for a reason. Every wedding I've done where they've wanted it done differently has ended in confusion. Mainly from the other guests.

Ask yourself what happens when your singer comes down with flu the day before the gig. 18hours to find a dep singer for a wedding for £125? Or the guitarist realises his wife booked their summer holiday and he won't be around that weekend that you booked 18months ago after all. Or any other of 1000s of other things. Pub gigs are turn up and play, cancel on the day if you want. Wedding gigs you're going to need insurance, pat testing, and a commitment from all the band several months in advance...

[quote name='Myke' timestamp='1372159268' post='2122253'] So after reading this.. I have come to the conclusion.. that I won't be getting a wife.. [/quote] I don't even want to start thinking about creating a formula with no limits.

[quote name='Dave_the_bass' timestamp='1372075225' post='2121190'] I've been giving this some serious thought and believe that many very important variables have been missed from this: O = optimum number of basses n = number of basses owned when co-habitation commenced m = time in months of co-habitation a = average cost of desired basses F = amount of disposable income that can be diverted in to a separate account per month without being noticed L = number of levers in the mortice lock on the music room door. ... That is all! [/quote] you're confusing this by using non standard variables and not the standards as defined above. your variables should be as follows: n = optimum number of basses x = number of basses owned when co-habitation commenced M = time in months of co-habitation a = average cost of desired basses F = amount of disposable income that can be diverted in to a separate account per month without being noticed L = number of levers in the mortice lock on the music room door. Thus the part of your equation "((mF)/a) L)" would become ((MF)/a)L) where ((MF)/a)L) = m. So substituting into the original equation we now have: x is number of basses you currently have. n is the number of basses you can have before you lose your house. t is time m is the maximum rate of change. n = mt + x m < n[sup]2[/sup]/t n - 1 < x + 1 or n < x + 2 m = (MF)/a)L

[quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1372026107' post='2120873'] Please remember, students, that the original question was 'Optimal', not 'Maximum'. I know these are often the same, or similar, but for full mathematical accuracy it would be a shame to confuse the two. I would suggest that the term we need to find be 'O', and that the time scale be limited to 1L, where L = one lifetime. I realise that the solution may verge on the infinite, but I'm hoping there's a 'real' solution without needing to invoke Chaos theory. Of course when 'O' exceeds 'M', then Chaos is the constant which results. Good luck, and tidy up the bottles afterwards, please. [/quote] An interesting postulation. I think for the purposes of this thread we can consider optimal as being just below the point that undesirable results occur. By defining n in terms of m we can safely assume that in some cases m will be very small and other cases (lonley single men with loads of money) infinite. Of course some, like iCastle may use the results to their advantage by finding n and reach it before time t and thus exceed the boundary limits of the equation.

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/1994_articles/mar94/headphones.html I think the 'myth' is bought about because people are visualising sound waves as a snapshot of ripples on a pool. They seem to think that they're standing on a peak or in a trough depending in how far away from the speaker they are. This is only true if the sound wave is reflecting off a wall that is a certain factor of the particular wavelength in question away from the speaker. That's a very big oversimplification. Really it's as most posters have said. Beaming, dispersion, room size and boundary effect. Not waves taking time to develop.

I think we're confusing n[sup]2[/sup]/t with m. Probably need to redefine terms and relationships from the start. x is number of basses you currently have. n is the number of basses you can have before you lose your house. t is time m is the maximum rate of change. n = mt + x m < n[sup]2[/sup]/t n - 1 < x + 1 or n < x + 2 we need to find the maximum value of n and the time t that it occurs in terms of m. It's 9 o'clock on Sunday night and I need more wine to solve that.