TimR

[quote name='bartelby' post='1308790' date='Jul 19 2011, 09:00 AM']As much as I'd like to see them again, large venues do my head in these days...[/quote] +1 I saw Metallica at the O2. Front row seats. I passed up Rush because I couldn't get near the front. If I want to watch a band on a video screen, I'll wait for the DVD. I know there's more to it than that but I prefer the intimate venues. The O2 Academy Islington has some good bands and it's a great venue. Anyway.... Back on topic. I may have a listen to the latest Maiden CD.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Every originals band that is serious about it needs a manager and a producer, AND needs to listen to them. There's a lot of misguided talent out there, it's a shame.

[quote name='xgsjx' post='1308739' date='Jul 19 2011, 06:57 AM']Hope you enjoy the gig. I'm another who saw them at Donnington back in 1992, that was a good festival. [/quote] I suspect there will be few. 110,000 IIRC I've seen them 4 times (3 times at Hammersmith and at the Donnigton gig) but lost interest after around 92 after Can I Play with Madness was number 1. A friend and I were first row on the balcony at the Hammersmith Odeon (I think it's the Apollo now). Bruce went into a rant about how the crowd used to be full of blokes in Leather Jackets singing to all the songs and head-banging and now the theatre was full of 15 year old kids and their parents and no one knew any of the words - apart from those two blokes in the front row up there..... Looking back on it I suspect he did that every night. My brother worked for a rigging company and had back stage passes for a Wembley show but I had flu. Believe me, it was proper flu, there was no way I would have missed that! Enjoy! It will be an Awesome show.

[quote name='leschirons' post='1298770' date='Jul 10 2011, 09:12 AM']My reply applies to regular venues that we know. I know most here will dissagree but I just hate sound checks. Having the opportunity to soundcheck in a large empty venue is not a luxury I have too often. We don't have an engineer but we know how it needs to sound. These are not pro band venues and so many times I've been asked to soundcheck, in front of half the audience, playing the first number in the set, only to repeat it 20 minutes later. So, now I say no.[/quote] I totally agree. The sound changes completely once you fill the venue (or the man and his dog arrive)

Maybe it's time for a poll.

[quote name='thepurpleblob' post='1298612' date='Jul 9 2011, 10:26 PM']In a pub that's already full of people? I play a few random notes up and down the instrument - mostly looking for horrible resonances in the room. If all is well, push the mute button and shut up. Call me grumpy (!) but it really annoys me players noodling away "sound checking" - you know who you are [/quote] One of our guitarists said the other day: "I still can't belive that you turn up, plug in, tune up, play a few notes and are ready to play while we haven't even got our guitars plugged in." It's an experience and confidence thing. Keep your powder dry until the first chord. You'll eventually get to the point of knowing where to set your volume based on the size of the venue without playing a note.

Lucky you hadn't written half of some huge great peom and some bloke knocked on the door making you forget the rest of it. I assume you can remember the bass line.....

Mustang Sally.

[quote name='Doddy' post='1297702' date='Jul 8 2011, 09:39 PM']But really you are still tuning to A440......It's just that the A is now one fret higher-the frequency of the note hasn't actually changed,only it's position.[/quote] That's essentially my point.

Inflexible? No. As Nigel has said the guitarists do it for tone and there is no need for you to do it unless you have to play an E[i]b[/i] on a 4-string. The problem always arrises, as you have found when you detune, of what to call the notes/keys that you are actually playing. I've run into problems when the Guitarists have down tuned a semitone but still call the first fret, on the E([i]b[/i]) string, F. So when they've charted it out you play the F that is written but they're all actually playng an E. They'll then complicate it further by saying they're playing it in E[i]b[/i] when thy're not but think they are due to their poor musical knowledge. It's best to downtune if the whole band have downtuned then you're all singing off the same song sheet. There doesn't seem to be a standard. It would be easier it if they just said tune to A=420Hz (or whatever A[i]b[/i] is before some pedant shoots me ).

Unless the songs she wants you to learn are easy for you, I would ask the singer to revisit your existing setlist and ask her if she will just do the gigs with tunes you already know. If it's only 8 pub gigs you'd only need about 20 tunes.

Thanks. I had a bit of a dip in. I'm finding more and more that a number of articles on these web based 'magazines' seem to lack editing. In the old days column inches were expensive and a magazine editor would cut the copy down to the essential and important parts. Sure it's nice to read all about how you: [quote]had been up since the early hours of Monday, 23rd of May, as many a low end tune spun round and round in my mind planting seeds in my head for possible new tracks that I could potentially use and reveal them as proper finished songs at a later date. This meant I needed to record those ideas as soon as possible as they would surely disappear with the arrival of the following dawn. So there I was recording and writing in the wee small hours and onwards into what was to be a very hot Tuesday during that last week of May. While I was working inside on some of those latest idea’s for new material for my solo project, I began wondering just how on earth I was ever going to get things completed with my head on “fire” between those headphones in such heat. I decided it was time for a break, and so I got a coffee and gathered some bass reading material and found a nice cool shady spot in the garden and sat myself down for a well-earned break.[/quote] but how exactly is that relevant to Rotosound bass string? Sorry but if it's a review of the factory visit just review the factory please. You lost me.... and what's with the CAPS in the thread title?

[quote name='Panamonte' post='1289766' date='Jul 2 2011, 12:41 AM'][quote name='TimR' post='1289655' date='Jul 1 2011, 10:11 PM'] It deosn't matter what order you play them in.[/quote] It really, really does. [/quote] Well, if you read the rest of my post then you'll see how I qualified that statement. There's no magic formula and swapping tunes around to try and fit said mythical magic formula will only serve to annoy your band mates. Settle on a setlist in the order [b]you[/b] like. It won't be the way your band mates like and it won't be the order that anyone in your audiences would chose either. It's down to one person to select/call the tunes and a [b]lot[/b] of time is wasted by people in bands endlessly discussing whether tune A should be before or after tune B. It happens in [b]every[/b] band I've ever been in and I suspect from the replies here it happens in every band that I haven't been in too.

[quote name='TimR' post='1289655' date='Jul 1 2011, 10:11 PM']I did have a guitarist say that we couldn't start a set with a particular number because he needed to be warmed up properly to play it. Doh! Warm up before you go on![/quote] [quote name='dc2009' post='1289771' date='Jul 2 2011, 12:50 AM']the only thing i get arsey about is when i'm expected to play fast song after fast song at the start, especially at short notice, I always like a warm up[/quote]

It deosn't matter what order you play them in. The important thing is that EVERY song you play should be good. If you are playing a song that consistently gets a bad reaction i.e people go and sit down. then don't play it. Every audience is different, we've played the same songs in the same order to different audiences and had a completely different reaction. IME every band member (in inexperienced bands) wants to have a say in what songs to play, which ones are the best and which ones should be played when. Once the band has been playing a while the novelty wears off, they get bored with chopping and changing songs around and they learn it doesn't matter. Come up with a setlist, play it a few times then change it. Tell them to grow up and just play the tunes. I did have a guitarist say that we couldn't start a set with a particular number because he needed to be warmed up properly to play it. Doh! Warm up before you go on!

Looks like you posted while I was still reading. I don't like the idea of having a fixed band at jams. The idea is that you just turn up and play with whoever is there. I've only been to a couple but found that people did seem to hog the stage. I played a few tunes but it was fairly clear that the regular guys had it sown up. That's down to the organisers though. If you want to play, then turn up and put your name down and when the bass player has done 15/20mins remind the organiser that it's supposed to be a jam night and you would like to have your turn. Sounds to me to be more like karaoke with a live band. I think that would quickly get very old for me. You could try hanging out with the regular players at the bar when they're not playing, chatting with them when they're packing down, or turning up early before it gets busy. I can't see you getting called up if no bass player turns up one evening. It's more likely they'll just get a guitarist to busy up the bass that night.

How does the Jam session organiser know you? From your initial post it doesn't look like you go there regularly? Did he ask you when you were at a session and then you never went back? People tend to forget about you if you don't badger them. It's not always how well you play but whether you can show the commitment to a weekly session.

I sliced open the tips of both index and middle finger on the day of a gig. I taped them up with micropore tape. The pain wasn't really a problem but half way through the gig my guitarist pointed to my "white" bass which was somewhat blood splattered.

Make a series lead. Then you can connect them as an 8ohm load.

All music is self indulgent unless the piece has been specifically written to sell records, in which case the artist has sold out. Pretty straightforward really. Next.

[quote name='Buzz' post='1268603' date='Jun 14 2011, 01:39 PM']Now that Frankie Poullain and his bandana wearing handlebar moustache is back in The Darkness, they might actually make a good album again (he left/got kicked before the second album, which tanked).[/quote] He says he was forced out but if you read this I think he was being paranoid I mean surely they must have left one track free for the bass. [url="http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/feb06/articles/baker.htm"]SOS: Recording The Darkness[/url]

[quote name='Westie9' post='1267874' date='Jun 13 2011, 08:53 PM']... As such I was standing right in front of the 410 so the sound was going right through me. ... Different speaker placement of my 410 would obviously help but what I am after is to be able to have my own monitor that is MINE, nobody elses so that I can adjust it for me. The 410 then can be set by the sound guy level wise and very much ignored by me during our set. Am I going about this the right way???[/quote] The best place for your 410 is up against the back wall. Your ears are not in your legs so you ned to tip your 410 back or lift it up so that it is pointing at your ears. Alternatively a 2x10 on top powered by a separate amp might be the way to go for this situation.

[quote name='lowdown' post='1265376' date='Jun 11 2011, 09:05 PM']And even longer to get this. ... Garry[/quote] Blimey, never heard that one before. I just thought all the flea fans would be posting Higher Ground. Superstitions obviously an early one too.

[quote name='ZMech' post='1265360' date='Jun 11 2011, 08:57 PM']Change your forum setting then, it's on the first page for me [/quote] Didn't know you could. Thanks for that info.

+1 But... It took two pages on a bass player forum to get to Higher Ground? Man we're slipping.