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One finger per fret. So barre with ring usually. Unless I'm playing the root with my second in which case its barre with little. I watched a band the other night the bass player didn't use his little finger all night.

Ok, Monk please take this in the spirit I mean it with the greatest of respect. It's a bit of a strange thread all round really. I called into question your reasoning behind already owning a mismatched head and cab while you question why combos did not obviously state whether the amps and internal speaker were matched. It just struck me as an odd gripe. Then later you stated that your old hughes and kettner bk200 combo had an extention cab port. however adding this would have lowered the wattage. This statement in itself is at odds with the the more watts = more volume thinking as the extra volume from adding the extra cab will more than compensate for the drop in watts. I think that the first few posters are right and you may have lots of experience in buying and selling amps. But why? Are you struggling to find something that works without understanding certain principles? Perhaps you do need to do more research and ask more questions about gear. You're now looking at 2x10s but that opens up another can of worms. I'm afraid that rather than online searching for bargains you need to get out and test some gear to see what works well. I'm fairly new to the forum and don't know you from Adam so hope this comes across as meant.

I bought a new Warwick 211pro cabinet for £300 two years ago. 400watts might go nicely with the Ampeg. There don't seem to be many secondhand ones around which indicates to me that either not many people bought them or no one wants to sell theirs. I'm quite pleased with it. Depends on how loud and what sound you're after.

How do you know the guy who did win it wasn't prepared to pay another £21 for it? It's called an auction for a reason.

OK, I just got the specs from the Ampeg website. Thinking about it logically and in my experience. If a combo can have an extension cab fitted then it is unlikely that it will be at full power with just the cab supplied. Otherwise why have an "extension" cab? If a combo cannot have an extension cab fitted then it definately will be at full power on its own. Unless you have an example to the contrary?

I see you're currently running a 500W head into a 4x10 also 500W. BUT according to the manual the 4x10 is 4ohm and at 4ohm the amp runs at 300W. To get the 500W out of the B5R you need an extension cab. But two 4x10s would give 1000W. How did you come to make the choice of the ampeg gear as to me the speakers seem massively oversized for that amp? What size combo are you looking for and why? You would get a 2x10 that would comfortably handle the Ampeg B5R. OK so you were up late last night posting and fed up but you're coming across as quite grouchy

[quote name='munkonthehill' post='947992' date='Sep 7 2010, 09:38 AM'].... It may save folk reiterating what the previous person had said in this thread[/quote] Isn't that telling you anything? or do you just not want to hear it? Watts don't mean anything anyway. I've had 120W combos that have been louder than 200w ones.

I've no doubt that the thread will descend into two camps. The I used to like Jamiroquai back when.... and those who still like them. I wasn't impressed by this new offering. I doubt they will chart very high, if at all, with it either. I prefer the very funky earlier stuff too. Maybe there isn't a market for the early stuff and they are playing it safe with this type of material for the masses. I'll probably listen to the album as a lot of their less commercial album numbers have been outstanding, even on the more recent albums.

IME the drum kits come with different amounts of reverb on them to make them sound like they're being played in "a room", "concert hall" or "stadium". Anyone who has ever used one of those multi FX pedals that have a reverb effect on bass will say that this makes the bass sound really good soloed on headphones but as soon as you play through a cab in a room or with other players it completely destroys the intelligibility. Find a kit with no reverb, or you may need to edit each drum to remove the reverb. Either that or get the drummer to build his own 'custom' kit using drums with no reverb.

Thanks. Looks like it's not just me then. I don't want to push the issue unnecessarily but I suspect that the rest of guys are already feeling like this too. As I say most of our songs do have endings so they understand the importance. Just a few to work on I guess and rehearse the ones we do have properly.

[quote name='Heathy' post='940950' date='Aug 31 2010, 01:49 PM']After the Bap did the drummer sometimes go Diddledum? That would really p**s me off.[/quote] That could well be why I have asked the question

[quote name='endorka' post='940724' date='Aug 31 2010, 10:18 AM']Intros/endings are really important - if you mess them up, it tends to be more noticeable and memorable to the audience than any other part of the song. Messy intros/endings will give the audience a poor perception of the band. Jennifer[/quote] That's my view as well. They're not messy just not always the same and so I think that can lead to a few nervous glances amongst us.

How much work as a band do you put into your endings? I played a gig on Saturday where quite a few of the endings we played were nothing like what we had rehearsed. Not really a problem as the crowd probably didn't know any better. I've been in bands where every ending has been crash bang and drawn out until the drummer thinks it should end which is tedious and boring and to me shows lack of imagination. I've been in bands where the endings have been practiced more than any other part of the tune. I've also been in bands where we've had no practices and everyone just takes their cues from the singer and ends as tightly as they can by watching each other. Probably the tunes (covers) in question don't need tight endings but I like good endings that make the band sound tight. We do have several tunes that we have worked on tight endings for and work very well so I don't think there will be an issue suggesting we work on a few more. I know we can do better but before I broach the subject with the band I'm just after some opinions.

[quote name='Doddy' post='939938' date='Aug 30 2010, 01:06 PM']You mention that he didn't speak to anyone wearing a 'band needs a drummer' t shirt- how many of you wore one of them? Yes,he acted like a knob but it's not cool to wear a shirt like that at the gig if you actually do need one.You might have found it amusing,but he probably thought that you were sticking it to him.It's not an excuse for walking out,but it's a decent reason to get pissed off[/quote] I thought it was the drummer that was wearing the t-shirt. Making some sort of statement.

[quote name='garethfriend' post='939816' date='Aug 30 2010, 10:20 AM'].... I have a far out theory involving two of the WAGs which will never be proven. For those who were wondering he is'nt (at least in terms of years) a stroppy teenager he's like mid to late 30's ...[/quote] Women and aproaching 40. No more needs to be said. Its not called the mid life crisis for nothing

[quote name='Dr.Dave' post='939774' date='Aug 30 2010, 08:29 AM']A shame when someone accepts the challenge to act like a professional then behaves like an amateur. A feather in caps though to those who take a 'show must go on' attitude and do the job they were employed to do. Grace under pressure - good on you all.[/quote] Agreed. I think you are doing amateurs a bit of a dis-service though How old is this guy? - Don't answer that! I've known professionals in their 60s behave like that. Usually something is going on in their lives somewhere else and their behaviour is manifesting itself in a bad way on their friends. I probably come across as a bit of a bleeding heart liberal but if he is the good 'valued' freind he thinks he is you should at least go for a beer and talk man-o-man about it. I left a band after another pointless argument because I had other things going on and the drummer was a selfish arrogant dick who had no empathy with anyone else's situation but I would never behave like that.

3. But this poll is flawed. There are, of course, only two answers. "Not enough" me. "Too many" Mrs. R.

3:16 The Duellists. Say no more!

Just got in. You've missed the opportunity to burglarize my house this week. But then you would have had to get past my wife..... .....good luck with that.

From the website advice thread: [quote name='Jesso' post='778323' date='Mar 18 2010, 10:48 AM']Just wanted to post something here in praise of Oldgit.... He has gone far above and beyond the call of duty with all the help he gave on my bands website. It's gone from "okay" to "pretty good if I do say so myself". And, most importantly, I'm quite sure all this help has resulted in an increase in bookings for The Panoramics (my band). I still can't understand where he gets all the spare time for his charitable contributions, but by now he must have amassed a huge reserve of good karma.... your definitely going to heaven Si! Some day I hope to be able to pay him back in some way, because honestly it is so rare to come across a stranger on the internet (or in real life) who is willing to go out of their way to help out of the goodness of their own heart. He offers top quality advice, no doubt which is worth a pretty penny if I'd been looking for someone's professional services. And have no doubt, Oldgit is definitely a professional when it comes to website usability. He knows his stuff. I hope this doesn't come across too gushy, but if anyone out there gets a chance to work with or is offered help by Si (Oldgit), bite his hand off. Just in-case your interested seeing the site all the work was done on, its this one: [url="http://www.thepanoramics.com"]http://www.thepanoramics.com[/url] Thanks Jesse[/quote] I couldn't agree more. His advice did the same for our band. He must have spent a day just emailing me.

Not on any Albums. That's what they employ ghost players for. Session musicians who sneak in and overdub the lines without even the band knowing it's been done. I've seen plenty playing awfully live though. None spring to mind though.

Good luck. The most important thing I've found is that the band are all doing it for the same reasons. If just one person is doing it for the money it all falls apart. Similarly if the person driving the band wants to be out every weekend and the others only want to be out when they've got nothing better to do. A lot of the time bands form for a bit of fun and some things are assumed and never discussed. Also people change over the years, get girlfriends/married/new jobs/kids etc. They EXPECT the band to change with them while the others can't understand why the person who has changed has to commit less. Its always best to have these discussions as soon as you feel things are drifting rather than hope they'll get better. We ended up agreeing one gig a month. Some months 2 or more gigs, some none. Then I joined another band to fill in the dates when the others didn't want to play.

[quote name='molan' post='922765' date='Aug 12 2010, 02:11 PM']Wow - so this one bought a few major issues out of the woodwork then! Looks like the band have now split based on the responses to an NYE gig Views were so polarised that it made one key member decide that he'd had enough, this prompted others to raise a few things as well so it looks like not only are we not doing the NYE gig but we aren't going to be doing any more gigs together now. . .[/quote] Ouch! That's a bit rough. My conversation went a bit like: OK we're in a function band but no one wants to do summer because that's summer holiday time so that's weddings and summer balls out then and no one wants to play Christmas and NYE either. When exactly do you expect to do these functions then.

[quote name='molan' post='922268' date='Aug 12 2010, 07:49 AM']I must admit that the band views on this have been really split. Couple of us think it would be fun to be out playing on a NYE instead of sitting at home watching Jools. One person said he'd much rather be doing exactly the reverse! Two people saying £175 minimum. The gig is tops of 40 mins drive for anyone so not a big hassle in that regard. I have a distinct feeling that some ban members have aspirations above the band's capabilities and that this is going to be an ongoing battle. . .[/quote] That's exactly what happened to us. The next year I bought up the subject in June and we had a discussion about exactly what people wanted and expected. I said I wasn't happy that certain people didn't want to be playing on potentially the best night of the year. I'm in a band to play and turning any gig down is ridiculous. OK, I want to get paid a realistic amount but some gigs pay well some don't and you take the rough with the smooth. We came up with a figure. Bearing in mind that the keys player said he would play for free and the sax wanted lots. You can't please everyone, but I said we could gig without sax if she didn't want to play - besides its more money for the rest of us . So when the agent asked us that year I was in a better position to negotiate a price with the agent. Some still moaned even though I'd got them what they had asked for. We did the gig and everybody said they would definiately do it again if asked. This is CASH as well I don't even get £175 for working a 10 hour Satuday O/T in my day job after I have paid TAX.

I don't think that the number of people in the band is relevant. Unless the restaurant specifically want your band they would probably be happy with a three piece. Are you pros? What would you normally get for playing there on a Sat night? A lot of people think that NYE is a golden ticket to charge lots. A lot of clubs/pubs make practically no money in Jan/Feb and need the Christmas/NYE events to make enough to cover this. I'll echo the comment above. It's mid August now, only 4 months to NYE how many enquiries have you had or are you likely to get? I had the same argument with my band over £160 each plus free meal (on a normal Fri/Sat we would have got £80 each and a staff discount), they turned it down and I spent NYE that year watching F.....g Jules Holland on TV.