TimR

As a session player?

Flexibility. I meet a lot of amateurs and semi-pros who need everything mapped out and organised to the nth degree. Parts rehearsed to death. Set List written down a week in advance. Where's the parking? What size is the stage? Music isn't like that. Playing live you have to be ready to improvise to react to changes when it goes wrong. Being on stage is no place to be if you can't cope with that. I do meet the odd pro like that but they're good, really good, and people smile at their eccentricities.

I think a lot of very well known musicians and actors are. They play a part on a stage, have a manuscript, know what they're doing. But once off stage they're lost around people. That's not a problem if you're in a band of people you've known for a long time, but don't think it works very well if you're depping, or doing session work.

That would require a thread of its own, but the ability to get on with the rest of the musicians for the length of a project. If you're not a people person you, and they, are not going to enjoy playing together. But then you'd have to ask why do you want to be a musician if you don't like being around musicians. So maybe that's a moot point. Maybe you don't need to be 'nice', but you need to be able to fit in with them. I suppose you don't actually want a 'nice' bass player if the rest of the band are psychopaths. But guess those types of bands don't last long.

I think at some point that becomes essential. That applies to all walks of life where someone is customer facing. People will put up with a fair amount of nonsense if the job is getting done, but if the nonsense starts getting to them they'll look around. Word of mouth is about reliable workers who are easy to work with. The world of music, is of course, littered with exceptions to this, but they are exceptional musicians.

ZTT is now owned by Universal Music. Holly Johnson escaped the clutches of ZTT a while ago. So suspect he no longer has publishing rights. https://www.theguardian.com/music/2022/dec/15/holly-johnson-the-power-of-love-frankie-goes-to-hollywood-ztt

Very disappointed by the quality of replies to this thread. 1. You need a backup exactly the same as what you already have. 2. You also need a backup that is different just in case you play some songs that require a different tone in the future. 3. You also need a backup exactly the same as the bass described in 2.

A bunch of people knew exactly what I was quoting. Unfortunately I assumed everyone had heard it before. Hence if you've not heard it before I can understand why you think I might be on some kind of drugs. My reply wasn't out of touch with the reality most people understand. At least 4 posters got it. Unfortunately I'm not spending hours constructing my posts with hundreds of legal clauses, and cross reference everything in case someone decides to cross examine me, in what is supposed to be an informal discussion forum, in some effort to score some points. Anyway. As you were.

And if that's not in the profanasaurus I'd be very surprised.

It's just one of a raft of popular quotes misattributed to Einstein and other people. https://www.businessinsider.com/misattributed-quotes-2013-10 I'm surprised more people here have never seen it before.

QED. If you want a different number. You have to do something different. Like use a non regular 6 sided dice.

I'm pretty sure if you keep throwing a 6 sided dice in the vain hope of throwing a 7. You won't ever be successful. Which is what the original philosopher (whoever it was) who made the statement had in mind.

They actually prove it. Shuffling cards mixes them up. If you shuffle cards and expect them not to be shuffled up, then you're mad. Practicing scales makes you better at scales. If you practice scales and expect to be able to play Chopin, then you're mad. Throwing a dice, tossing a coin, will get you a random number from 1-6, or a head or tail, if you expect some different outcome, then you're mad. Don't expect a different outcome to the one you usually get. The point is about failure. If you try to do something via one method, and repeatedly fail to see any change, you need to find another method. It's very applicable to sports and musical training.

Other bridges are available. That's just the one I used to use when going to Sussex.

If the gig isn't in the closed area you can come up through Kingston, Richmond and over Hammersmith Bridge. https://www.london.gov.uk/events/london-new-years-eve-2022/business-and-residents-information-london-new-years-eve-2022?_gl=1*1r6x9m9*_ga*MTgwNzI1OTE5OS4xNjcxNzQ5NjY0*_ga_PY4SWZN1RJ*MTY3MTc0OTc4Ni4xLjAuMTY3MTc0OTc4Ni42MC4wLjA.

That's a tough one. Where are you coming from? My suggestion would to have a band member drive in early with the gear. Leave it somewhere secure at the venue overnight along with the vehicle and go back and collect it next day. Depends on venue obviously. We used to play a venue Friday Nights and Saturday Nights and leaving the large drums, hardware and amps overnight was fairly safe.

Definition of insanity is repeating the same thing expecting a different outcome. I'll leave that there.

Make sure you've hidden the gig money somewhere safe, someone is after a new pair of shoes.

I usually lie awake wondering where that high pitched whistling sound is coming from. And then wonder why I put my earplugs in my pocket instead of my ears.

But do you not recognise there are situations where being nimble is not the aim and not required, where playing with the pads will give a different tone and where muting with the thumb is necessary? Technique is not just about physicality,it's also about tonality. I mean you can't pluck properly with your fingers if you've got a pick in your hand. Ergo, holding a pick must be bad technique.

I'm pretty sure he set his guitar on fire using lighter fluid as well. I've never seen anyone teach that as a technique. Really you should be rubbing two sticks together to start fires.

Can we rename the thread; What do you do with your handbag?

Just seen Terry Hall has died.

Our singer covered our event with backing tracks. I went along to set up PA and lights. From the feel of the event and watching audience reaction, she should have done a shed load of Christmas music. It was a background music gig. I don't think I could have played, outdoors in close to 0°c in any case. Reminded me once more you have to guage your audience. Depends who books you and whether they're expecting a band who has a set list of 40 songs or 100 songs.

No. My car is leased for 4 years and my bass model can be found on ebay buy it now for c£280. But doubt it'll be worth that. I'd guess the majority of people driving 'new' cars are leasing or whatever the latest 'loan' model is. Not many will have paid cash.