TimR

Orchestral scores are rearranged all the time.

Probably written by guitarists.

The Keeley bassist is very good. I bought Lozz's 1st one and it's always on now.

Was going to post but thought I'd do a search. Anyone bought one. Horrifically expensive... The 105Q looks pretty good as well but love the sounds on this thing. Just not sure I can justify that price.

All those singers, guitarists, harps and drummers. Just the one bass...

I have an SR400. It has PJ, and is active.

You already have a compressor. Just adjust it when you swap basses.

Unfortunately in practice, it works the opposite way round. The less available your music is and the more people have to pay for it, the less people listen.

TBH I assume it's a move to simplify his estate and make inheritance tax more efficient and guarantee a sum.

This should be pretty simple if you're playing in covers band. Copy the original line fairly closely. If your arrangement is not working becasue you're missing instrumentation in your band, listen to what those instruments would be playing. Work out if they're really essential parts of the arrangement or just nice to have. Decide which other instrument will cover that part. If it's the original bass line that's tough to copy, you have to make a decision on what to play instead.

It all depends how much the guitarist is playing with a sound that works in a band setting, and how much they're playing with 'their tone'. If its the latter, the bass will have to be EQd so that the mids cut through as the guitarist will probably be far too bass heavy. If you manage to get a guitarist to understand that the bass has the bass covered and he needs to EQ to suit the band, then you shouldn't need to do anything else. Good luck with that.

I'd suggest if someone feels the music is empty and they're not confident or experienced, then they will play more notes, play louder, more quickly and add effects in an effort to cover what may or may not need filling. But the reverse isn't true, someone playing like that doesn't mean its because they're less confident or inexperienced, quite often it'll be because they're overconfident.

It's usually quite easy to spot a guitarist playing a bass. The traditional roll of the bass is to underpin the chords, whether that be by playing roots, or harmonies and counterpoint. Overplaying to my mind is playing notes that don't actually add to the arrangement but detract from it. Unless the idea is for the bass to be more melodic, in which case it needs to be melodic, rather than playing random runs and fills. I went to see It Bites a couple of times a few years ago. To me Lee Pomeroy nailed the bass role, but I found Nathan King to be too busy. I later found out that bass isn't King's first instrument.

There are many many tunes that I've heard many many times and noticed something that I've not heard before. The idea that your audience are all musical maestros who have studied all the pieces you are going to play intimately, and then going to sit down afterwards and write a musical critique about how the vocalists intonation in the second bar wasn't quite the same as Freddie and the Bass drum was a quarter note lower than Rogers and the reverb was 10ms too much, is probably not going to fly. And in any case. As long as the words are pretty close, they're all hearing Freddie in their heads and singing loudly, and probably don't even know who John was.

There's always one band member who won't leave his car parked anywhere they decide is a 'bit dodgy'. Played with one drummer who would often unload and then disappear off to find somewhere 'safe' to park. It got so bad that he would refuse to do some gigs because he didn't want to park his car anywhere near the venue. And a singer who would turn up 2 minutes before start, go straight to the bar, arrive on stage with a pint of beer and a pint of water. Spend the first 3 songs complaining he couldn't hear himself and then have to announce his own car registration as he was parked causing an obstruction in the venue car park.

We learned a very valuable lesson one New Year's Eve. We gave the club DJ our setlist so he would know when to be ready for our 2 breaks and finish so he could seamlessly start his music. Won't ever do that again.

That would never happen nowadays with the advent of satnav.... Would it....? 😆

Played a village fair once. The first set was great. Then it got dark and we switched the lights on and the electronics went crazy. I switched a few lights off and it calmed down a bit and we finished playing on a somewhat gloomy stage. I followed the extension lead back across the field to a shed where I assume the lead had been plugged in, but it went round the shed and plugged into another lead that snaked off towards the village hall. Must have been well over 150m from where we set up. Assuming it was plugged in at the hall.

I used to play a few jazz gigs with my dad on piano and brother on drums. My dad would rustle up some local talent on brass and woodwind and put on a jazz afternoon or evening for his local village to raise some money. My brother and I were co-opted in, he would busk the drums and I'd do my best to play walking bass over some awkward chord changes written in indecipherable hyroglyphics. It was mainly just a case of keep going at the back, listen and watch for changes while the woodwind/brass/piano played huge great solos and took the heat. My brother and I, at the back would be pulling faces at each other and playing random humorous fills in relevant places and generally using it as an excuse to have fun. At one of these gigs we stopped for a break, sandwiches and wine and while I was talking to my brother about how busy it was and how well we were playing and going down, a lady approached us. "You must be H's sons." "Yes" "Well I've been watching you both. Stop messing around at the back!" Always very humbling to be told off when you're in your mid forties. 😆

Normally at the 12th fret. But if you're doing your own set up you don't need to measure it.

I think the point is, if you have instruments missing or don't play parts, the listener fills in the gaps subconsciously. They're hearing what they expect to hear, not always what you're playing. It's the same as sight. A large proportion of what you are seeing is being made up by your brain and what you're expecting to see.

Back in the 80s. We played a hall with a 4ft high stage. Loads of people in the audience. Guy climbs up onto the stage and dives backwards headlong into the audience. Which parts like the red sea and he hits the deck flat on his back. We continued playing, trying to peer into the gloom to find out what was going on, while he remained completely immobile for about a minute before slowly getting to his feet and wandering off to the back of the hall. Fairly worrying as the guitarist and myself had hired the hall and were probably responsible for the health and safety of everyone there.

This is something I've only just become aware of. And will explain how we all hear music slightly differently and why 'playing it exactly as per the original' can never happen. I've long wondered why musicians will say we play this exactly as per the original and then post a YouTube clip, which to me, is a pretty rough approximation. And why some bands I go to see got a massive reaction from some pretty appalling musicianship. Most of the audience are listening to music that's already built into their memory and the notes we play are just firing off those neurons. I once played Baggy Trousers in a band and something wasn't right with the keyboard part, I eventually tracked it down to the keys playing Fmaj chord instead of Fmaj/C. Not a biggie but wasn't right to my ears. No one else in the band could hear any difference. All due to Top Down Processing. What you are listening to isn't what you are hearing. https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn28683-how-trippy-version-of-mariah-carey-christmas-hit-fools-the-brain/

It's not for everyone, but the more you do it the more you get used to it. It's like anything where you push yourself out of your comfort zone. And very rewarding. The key is to remember that no one is expecting you to be note perfect, it's live music and unless you're absolutely useless, most people won't remember any duff moments.

These are the people who like the idea of being in a band, more than being in a band. The playing and the music is secondary to how they think the audience perceives them. Which isn't usually quite how the audience actually perceive them. Big giveaways are the amount of gear they own, the songs on the setlist, and how long they spend discussing stagewear.