TimR
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I think he's said that he doesn't pick them because he likes them, just because they're noteworthy classics which are by definition 'greats'.
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How many extra drinks does a pub need to sell to cover a £250 band?
TimR replied to 41Hz's topic in General Discussion
Pubs used to be coaching houses where you could get a meal, a bed for the night and a fresh horse. Those were the days. <sings> And I'm a dandy highway man... -
How many extra drinks does a pub need to sell to cover a £250 band?
TimR replied to 41Hz's topic in General Discussion
Or when people give apparently sarcastic responses. -
How many extra drinks does a pub need to sell to cover a £250 band?
TimR replied to 41Hz's topic in General Discussion
Yes. I realised that. Just thought it was worth discussing. 🤣 -
How many extra drinks does a pub need to sell to cover a £250 band?
TimR replied to 41Hz's topic in General Discussion
Was aimed at me. I suppose it is really. But discussions change depending on what's happening. Probably similar in many commuter belt pubs around London. The other pub is more of a locals pub, its full of middle aged men complaining about stuff, but I can take my dog in there. -
How many extra drinks does a pub need to sell to cover a £250 band?
TimR replied to 41Hz's topic in General Discussion
No. We usually have very long discussions. The landlord is a Hong Kong Chinese and a rabbid communist. There's an artist who is a marxist, a bank trader who is a Labour/Conservative swing voter, a guy with a degree in politics who runs his own business and is as Conservative as they come, plus a load of other assorted characters. Nurse, artic truck driver, a cabbie. It's usually very lively on a Friday and Saturday. Just not on a Sunday. I don't get people who think discussions are arguments and try and close them down. Odd. -
How many extra drinks does a pub need to sell to cover a £250 band?
TimR replied to 41Hz's topic in General Discussion
Many years ago, this happened to us on Friday night. I was playing in a function band and suggested we did a few pub gigs as they'd probably lead to more gigs. The rest of the band were against playing pubs. (But I think we ended up picking up a gig wedding/dnd/birthday practically everytime we played) People in the audience were phoning their friends up and telling them to come down, the place was rammed. The regulars usually talk to the bar staff and tell them to rebook if they like you and/or you're better than the usual bands they see. Then word gets around and next time the audience is bigger. We never went back, because- "We don't do pub gigs..." There's no telling some people. -
Until recently this year, I've always only ever plugged in direct. In the last 5 years I've been using a Korg Pitch-black as a tuner as its easier than pressing a mute button on the amp. Earlier this year I bought a Keely Bassist compressor which is now always on as it has more control than the single knob amp on-board compressor. I have a chorus pedal at home in a box but have never taken it out of the house.
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Just have a pinned post on your page so it's the first thing everyone sees.
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How many extra drinks does a pub need to sell to cover a £250 band?
TimR replied to 41Hz's topic in General Discussion
That's a massive assumption. Frequently my local has someone manning the bar for the whole day. Say from 11am to 11pm. 12 hours. Minimum wage that's £120 before any overheads, rent, lighting, heating, etc. At £2.50 profit per pint. They'd have to sell 48 pints just to cover the staff costs after NI and Tax. Every Monday to Thursday. If they have a chef in as well, that's more wages. That's just not how businesses run. Some days they'll have no customers at all, other days (band nights) they'll be full and covering their losses for the rest of the week. I've been in at 9pm on a Sunday night and been the only person there. My other Local doesn't open Mondays and Tuesdays, as they make such a loss. -
How many extra drinks does a pub need to sell to cover a £250 band?
TimR replied to 41Hz's topic in General Discussion
I've no idea. Happy Jack and Steve both point out that there are different models. I was only quoting what I'd been told. And as I say, I don't see how you can work out individual 'profit' on an individual pint. You know the cost and you know what it sells for, but that's all you know. I guess if the difference is £2.50, you need to sell an additional 100 pints above what you'd sell on a night without a band. Assuming you make a profit on a night without a band. But don't think it works like that. Most pubs are empty in January up to mid February, often empty midweek. So they must make money seasonally and at weekends. If you drew 100 people in and they drank 4 pints each, that might just make up for zero sales Monday to Thursday. -
How many extra drinks does a pub need to sell to cover a £250 band?
TimR replied to 41Hz's topic in General Discussion
Thought it was a discussion? It was my landlord friend who said about 80p a pint. The concept of per drink was the OP with £2/drink. If you don't want to discuss things why come here? -
How many extra drinks does a pub need to sell to cover a £250 band?
TimR replied to 41Hz's topic in General Discussion
I don't see how it can be calculated per pint. Only how it averages out over the month. I was the only person in last night. 2 bar staff for a few hours £10 worth of beer sold in that hour. -
How many extra drinks does a pub need to sell to cover a £250 band?
TimR replied to 41Hz's topic in General Discussion
My local landlord claims he only makes about 80p on a pint. Most of his money goes to the brewery. So I suspect the idea of a budget paid directly from the brewery is more likely. He resists putting any entertainment on whatsoever. He makes all his profit from food sales. -
We call that a Barn Dance. It's a completely different setup. I've sat in on a couple and found the musicians have a completely different mind-set. Great for practicing root-5th bass playing. 🤣
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Bugles can only play the Bb major arpeggio.
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That's the difference between lending a bass and letting someone use your backline. Difficult to drop the backline. Although drinks do get spilled. My speakers are more than capable of handling the amp, it's just a case of making sure the gain doesn't get fiddled with.
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Your wife?
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That's not very PC. I hope you're not suggesting you own your wife...
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Bad bands - or - where are all the semi-decent musicians?
TimR replied to Rexel Matador's topic in General Discussion
Could have been worse. Could have been an English Horn player wanting to play everything in E#. -
Ts not usual to find guitarists and singers who don't think the same way that bass players and drummers do. Their playing is much more fluid and they rely on the bass and drums holding it together. The number of guitarists I've played with who start songs after being counted in and by the end of the intro are in a different tempo, some times having paused and hung on notes.
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Yes. A situation to definitely avoid. I've played at a wedding where the grooms band have got up and done a few numbers but used our instruments and gear. I'm trying to remember if my old drummer had tried to shoehorn us into his mates wedding "as it would be good exposure", its the kind of thing he would have tried.
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Ah yes. "Drunk people who play in a band and know what they're doing." That's a whole subject on its own. I was packing down after one gig. Left the desk running with background music while I unplugged mics and fold back. All of a sudden there's a howl of feedback and I turn round to find some idiot playing with the faders. He was obviously very drunk, I asked him to move away when his mate piped up, "It's OK, he plays in a band, so he knows what he's doing." Mind blown.
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Bad bands - or - where are all the semi-decent musicians?
TimR replied to Rexel Matador's topic in General Discussion
I once failed an audition with the words "Is that how you think it goes?". Followed by, "Think we will go with the other guy, he knows all the tunes. Do you fancy a cup of tea and a chat?" Although I'd already decided I didn't want the gig on the drive to the audition.