TimR

[quote name='mikel' timestamp='1502272772' post='3350332'] Ehh? Surely if the BD is loud enough for any room, then its loud enough. You seem to be suggesting that micing it up will make it quieter????? Surely if its loud enough to be heard in the room, any eq you add to it will not overpower the acoustic sound out front, so will be a waste of time. Just saying. [/quote] 'Can be' The point is if you're loud enough to be heard at the back of the room, it's pretty much going to be too loud on stage. So you play to the stage volume and mic up for front of house. .

Personally I think everyone should vacate the stage at least 5 minutes before you start, having already tuned up etc. Preferably earlier, as soon as they're happy that their gear is ready to go. Go to the loo, get stage gear on, get drink or whatever. Then all return at the same time, together, a couple of minutes before your scheduled start time. That should give a clear indication to the audience that something is about to happen. Having musicians wandering about the stage endlessly twidling, standing around and sliding into an indeterminate start doesn't give off the right impression. .

Do you mean everyone is outside or at the bar and you want to get them to the front of the stage before you start your set proper?

It's all down to compromise like any relationship. You'll have a natural leader who needs to be able to take into consideration other people's views. A band is essentially a team. You don't have to be mates, you just have to work well with each other while performing and practicing and have good communication skills. It works both ways, people aren't mind readers, sometimes you have to spell things out when they're not working as expected.

Brilliant. I think the Ford Granada estate and the Volvo estate where the transport of choice for Bass players with 8x10"s in the 80s.

Pub gigs tend to be a gentlemens agreement which works both ways. If your singer is ill on the day, you phone and cancel. If it's a wedding gig, with a proper contract and a few grand at stake, you phone your first call dep.

Should have held it at an angle.

[quote name='EliasMooseblaster' timestamp='1502118370' post='3349402'] Now that sounds like an interesting one* - do tell? [size=3]*unless the punchline is, "it was a tribute band"![/size] [/quote] We knew an arts student. Fantastic at poetry and drawing abstract art but very shy. He used to write the 'poetry' and sing it to the guirtarist who transcribed what he sang, brought it to us and we filled in the gaps.

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1502114665' post='3349370'] Why is it presumed anyone in a covers band can only play covers? [/quote] It's the internet Pete. There's only one way, the right way, my way, everyone else is wrong. I've been in many originals bands and as I've said before there's too many bands trying to be too original and sacrificing melody, lyrics and form just to be seen as different. I'll hasten to add, in all the originals bands I've been in I only fitted a bass line to melody and lyrics that someone else has written. I've even been in a band where the guy doing the writing wasn't even in the band!

Wow. Stick that infront of your class D and Bareface and it's back to 80s slap heaven... ... or not...

Learn your scales.

[quote name='The59Sound' timestamp='1502010156' post='3348696'] Yet the pub name isn't being bought up still. [/quote] What would that achieve? Have you read the rest of the thread at all?

The thing is you're never going to A/B the band against the record at a gig or even against another band. In addition, what you hear as a bass player when you are playing is absolutely nothing like what the audience are hearing. In fact what each individual person hears in a track, is different as well due to the way each of our own bodies have grown and how each of us interprets what each instrument is playing. Getting into arguments with a band member because you haven't got enough 5kz on your bass tone? That way lies madness. I've had enough of a struggle trying to get guitarists to understand that just because their bottom note is an E doesn't mean I'm supposed to be playing an E as well. Sure if you enjoy spending hours obsessing over kit then that's fine but personally I want to learn a track and get out and play the thing live to an audience. YMMV.

Like all my posts. It's just advice.

[quote name='Rich' timestamp='1501861757' post='3347890'] I had an SMX preamp as part of my rig many years ago, and loved it. The flexibility was great and the dual band compressor was an excellent feature. If Trace were to build the SMX preamp features (or some of them at least) into a lightweight Class D head, I would definitely be in the market for one. [/quote] I think there are circuit diagrams on the web. It shouldn't be too hard to knock a preamp up in a stomp box. .

[quote name='lojo' timestamp='1501866229' post='3347938'] Bit over the top to stay steer clear ? I think any band who says their goal is to play it straight is aware it won't be to the mm [/quote] You'd be surprised at how controlling some musicians can be about how close everyone else in the band has to play to the original. I'm all for a Guitarist pointing out the original bass line is different to what I'm playing, but I draw the line when they try to teach it to me note for note (especially when what they're teaching isn't the original bass line either. ) As I say there's close and there's exact. Stay clear of the latter. They're often deluded.

[quote name='Skybone' timestamp='1501781304' post='3347347'] It seems that around here, 85-90% of bands do covers, young, old, inbetween, mostly covers. There's a few bands playing their own songs, but not many unfortunately. Personally, I've always found doing covers a bit boring, because "you've got to play it like the original", some of the best covers I've heard have been a bands interpretation of a song, played in their style. I remember being "berated" by the guitarist of a band I was in, because I wasn't playing the song right. "Which bit", asks I, "the pauses in the bit there are out, you aren't playing it like the original". Pretty much sums up my experience of doing covers "You're not playing it right", sorry, but I bet the band that recorded the song originally never quite play it "right" either. [/quote] 10 times out of 10 the bands that think they're playing it exactly like the original, aren't. Steer clear of musicians who think that way.

More about it here. http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/kanye-west-files-10-million-lawsuit-against-tour-insurers-w495435

We had something similar when a new landlord took over a regular pub in Hitchin that's been doing music for years. It had closed for a while and was going to be converted to flats. The locals had disappeared to be replaced with a new smaller group. He really wasn't interested in us playing, hadn't bothered to contact us, told us on no uncertain terms that we weren't the type of music he would book, even if he was intending on booking bands again. I don't know if he is still there.

If people witnessed him taking drugs before behaving erratically that's all the evidence they need. Would you expect your holiday insurance to pay up if they wouldn't let you on the flight because you were drunk? The insurance company would also have acress to his medical records. http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/kanye-wests-hospital-stay-rappers-troubled-recent-weeks-w453465

The problems I hear with many originals bands is they're trying too hard to be original and many of them don't understand song structure. Playing covers gives you a base to build from and learn. If a lot more originals bands didn't have the "We're an originals band, we don't do covers" attitude, they'd get a lot further. We play a few originals in our cover band, its the way to test them in front of an audience. If you play a two hour set of covers and pop in 8 originals you can play the normal pub circuit and get your songs tested and out there, have fun and get paid. It's easier and more rewarding than trying to sell yourself to a bunch of people only there to see their mates band who disappear once they've finished playing.

It's the weight of the combo. I took the amp out once and it's got a huge toroidal transformer in it. The 15" combo weighs 35kg. My 210pro weighs 25kg and the amp is separate but may weigh 10kg, so may weigh the same combined. It's just easier to throw around like that.

Sorry, but no TE thread is complete without this guy. In case you have no idea he's from this classic thread: http://basschat.co.uk/topic/200307-mystery-bassist-solved/page__fromsearch__1

Maybe the neck was swapped for a Jazz? What a great story.

I picked up a 715 300W combo. I'm pretty sure it was lead lined and probably nuclear powered. It used to demolish door frames and take chunks of plaster off the walls at home. Sounded good but I went for a pair of Warwick cabs and a 500W Pro FET to replace it as it was getting very old and unreliable. Bought 'second hand' for £300 played for 10 years sold 'second hand' for £300. It owed me nothing I must have earned 000s with it. Although it probably cost me 000s in wasted fuel and building repairs.