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Frankly, I should think he wouldn't care too much about a few detractors on an internet forum arguing why he has so many basses after selling millions of albums worldwide and becoming one of the most successful British recording artists ever. I think Chris Wolstenholme had the misfortune of becoming one of those cult bass players who's sound became one of the most widely imitated in current years. I've seen a few people go out and buy Pedullas, then sell them and get Rickenbackers because that's what he did, and then buy a Zon or whatever etc. etc. he probably must just laugh to himself and count himself lucky that so many people care about a sound that he created in the first place.

[quote]This thread is hilarious. A bunch of people who don't own Sadowsky basses telling those who do and gig them regularly that they're poor sounding basses.[/quote] [quote name='EBS_freak' post='965063' date='Sep 22 2010, 10:24 PM'] Here, here. Well said that man. Oh, and next time you are looking at Sandbergs also check out the daylight under the frets....[/quote] It's also natural that a load of Sadowsky owners (which I'm guessing you are) would take exception having shelled out a fortune for a bass, only for people then to say Sandbergs as an example sound better. I must say the build quality of both Sadowskys and Sandbergs were both very high, but sound wise I expected a hell of a lot more from the Sadowskys I tried and consistently it didn't deliver to my ears. This is purely personal preference and not a slight to Sadowsky owners. It's not just Sadowskys either, I've tried Pensas, MTDs, Dingwalls, Suhrs, Seis and other high end basses that IMO just didn't sound like the asking price to me. The only bass I've ever played that to my ears justified its price tag was a particularly beautiful F-Bass I tried in Rudy's NYC and also a Celinder Update 4 which was just incredibly good. You probably shouldn't take it to heart, I keep reading time and time again on here how bad P-Basses are designed and how terrible they sound, but to be honest I couldn't care less, I love the sound of my old P-Bass w/flats more than anything else and from my experience nothing beds a track better. It's all preference. I think Metro asking prices are ludicrous but it's all in the eye of the beholder innit

[quote name='Chris2112' post='964394' date='Sep 22 2010, 12:47 PM']Although the Sandberg California J basses sounded and felt much better than the Sadowsky Metros through the same amp for considerably less; perhaps there is something to be said for A/B'ing these things! [/quote] Late to the argument here, but every Sandberg California Jazz 4/5 I've tried have actually sounded consistently better than any Sadowsky NYC and Metro/ultra Jazz I have ever tried, and I have now tried a lot of Sadowskys. The Sandberg sounded better sonically to my ears and is a lot cheaper as well. I really wanted to love Sadowskys but I just didn't, and I also think the Metros are stupidly overpriced IMO. The sound is a personal thing and the Sadowsky sound just doesn't do it for me. Also, the whole in/out of the mix thing is pretty ridiculous. If you don't like the sound of a bass then why would you consider having it in the first place? What's the point in picking up a bass and taking it to a gig if you can't get excited about playing it by yourself? It makes absolutely no sense.

[quote name='Crazykiwi' post='962691' date='Sep 20 2010, 08:31 PM']He had to give up playing drums due to back problems. He's a highly under rated drummer, awesome feel.[/quote] Agreed. Check this out, great Big Band sound. Not even my thing at all but worth seeing. Nathan East on upright as well.

James Jamerson Pino Palladino Paul McCartney Anthony Jackson Nathan Watts

Chester Thompson who I saw drumming on this Motown clip Phil Collins has got going on currently cannot play Motown to save his life IMO. He's just not got the feel right in the clips I saw.

if I listened to all those twats and what they had to say I'd be angry basically all the time. You can probably take some solace in the fact they're all living in their mum and dad's basement and will probably never achieve success?

Sick setup! That Jazz is ridiculously good looking.

[quote name='waynepunkdude' post='959644' date='Sep 17 2010, 04:36 PM']To be honest I think a mercy killing of that 'bass' should take place.[/quote] Huge +1.

[quote name='tredders' post='959082' date='Sep 17 2010, 07:50 AM']Thanks for the replies. I've now got terrible GAS for one of these! I've noticed that there's a Contemporary series Club bass for £450 or so.... wonder what that's like? :-)[/quote] Terrible, very badly made with massive design flaws, avoid at all costs. I had one briefly, seems strangely ironic having praised Hofner so highly only to slate them but the cheaper models are pretty terrible and are definitely worth avoiding. Just IMO.

Superb, and proof there's good music out there still to be had. Agreed on the great tone also, took an old 67' Hofner Club bass into the studio a while back with flats on it and it sounded so great on record. I like some modern basses, but there's nothing better than a cool hollowbody like a Hofner.

I think dynamics are the first thing a drummer should concern himself with. Bad dynamics = bad technique as far as I'm concerned. Telling him might offend him but it's probably the only way round it, either that or find I new drummer I reckon.

Yeh saw this guy playing a while ago... pretty damn good!

[quote name='ezbass' post='954869' date='Sep 13 2010, 03:05 PM']That's no defense as they're both TV programs that happen to have live music. Their primary audience are people in their lounges in front of the box so the sound should be tailored accordingly. The sound at the recent Jamie Cullum RAH proms gig was brilliantly mixed, proving that it can be done. As to hiring any old idiots, I've worked at both TV centre and Broadcasting house and the quality of some of the staff is staggering and not in a good way.[/quote] Yeh okay so I'd probably point the finger at whoever was in charge of broadcasting the live sound. I agree that the likes of Jools Holland's Later show is poorly done, but I know a few people for examle who were at Stevie Wonder's gig in Hyde park a month ago who said the sound was excellent live, then watching it back on TV later the sound was dire and in no way an accurate representation of sound quality on the day.

[quote name='ezbass' post='954592' date='Sep 13 2010, 12:15 PM']+1 Tonight With Jonathon Ross always had the crappiest mixes, Later is often another victim of a deaf sound guy.[/quote] In both these show's defense I do think the live sound isn't translated as well through television, which is probably the case most of the time. The BBC aren't just going to hire any old idiots to do live engineering after all.

Jerry Meehan is a great player, heard him on an Omar album a while back and he's damn funky. Used to be Chris Sharrock on kit who's a local guy, but he moved on to Oasis (Noel Gallagher apparently saw an opportunity to piss both his brother Liam off by hiring a Robbie Williams band member, and then piss Robbie off by stealing his drummer... hilarious move ). Yolanda Charles will always remain my favourite RW bassist though.

Yeh I'd get it if I had the money to keep it going. I love Fenders.

[quote name='Protium' post='953159' date='Sep 11 2010, 09:13 PM']Or just use the volume control on the bass...[/quote] I don't get the sort of tone I require from my two basses without maximum level both in a recording and live setting and the output of both basses varies greatly, so I don't reckon it's as straight forward as using the volume on the bass IMO.

It's a personal thing, but have a look at Nordstrand NJ5S's, the split coil will cancel the hum.

[quote name='chris_b' post='951882' date='Sep 10 2010, 02:55 PM']I only posted that because you seemed to be having a Melvin Bragg moment!![/quote] Ha, the old Manchester/Hacienda music scene is really interesting to me and often gets overlooked as important hence the answer. [quote]i dont think you need to be "up there" to be a good player...you just have to like it...[/quote] That was my point really. Noticed from other posts you're a big fan of a lot of funk and groove stuff so maybe it might not be up your street, but hey, worth listening anyway isn't it!