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Hang on a second..... Adam Clayton Neil Tennant Bet you've never seen them in the same place?

It's just so boring to look at, how many more times are Fender going to use the same old box "Got any of those same old wooden boxes we put all our guitar and bass combos in Chad?" "There's about 10,000 out the back Brad" "Oh man, how we goon shift those flipers Chad?" "We could always use 'The Fender Algorithm' Brad" "What you mean make the same item but call it something different, or say it came from the Custom Shop (sniggers) Chad" "Yes, but we'll use the even better and updated algorithm, make more money still if we can find a well past their best rock star to allow us to call it their Custom Shop Signature Amp Brad" "Ah, I can see why you're Worldwide Head of Horizon Scanning and Innovation at Fender Musical Instruments Corps Chad"

Fender breaking new ground yet again

Thanks for the above guys, I think the reality is that if I go the D-style route they'll go in and stay in, I'll always have the option of using the XLRs as the DB25/XLRs are switchable. Not fixed in this as a solution yet but it's looking the best compromise all around at present 👍

BTW, @Dad3353I hesitate to ask having just looked at some prices, but what do you consider constitutes a well manufactured DB25?

Thanks @Dad3353, just checking I'm not missing anything in assuming that by taking the DB25 I/Ps from a female XLR patch-bay and send the DB25 O/Ps to a male equivalent gets around the flexibility problem?

Thanks @BigRedX, thought so, seems that using DB25s for both in and out might save me a bit of cable mess, keeping an 8 x XLR input patchbay on he front of the rack unit and a 8 x XLR output on the back I get your point re the channels, that could have tripped me up 👍

I've been using XLRs so long that to use anything else just feels odd

Thanks @WinterMute, I found the DB25 schematic for the O/P on my UAD so I assume this is also balanced?

Thanks @WinterMute, much appreciated, it's only just occurred to me that the most obvious way of reducing cable problems is to un the front patch-bay to the DB25 input on the UAD rather than to the separate XLR ins, is tyere any reason why this is not a good idea (would I expect better quality with XLR for example)?

Folks, I'm trying to rationalise my recording setup at present, I'm using a temporary 'studio' that is I suspect not entirely free of damp so have installed my UAD and SSL devices in a portable (if rather large) rack unit that I move between house and studio, the added bonus of which is that I can work on editing/production in the house also. I have an 8-channel patch bay on the front allowing easy access to the inputs on the back of the UAD. The problem is that having already been faced with a sea of XLR cables in a relatively small case, I now need to access two channels of an 8-output DB25 output meaning even more cables and as far as I can tell 6 'spare' XLRs in the box running out of the back of the DB25. There seem to be two options, firstly take the DB25 apart and disconnect/remove the spare XLR cables (which even if it's easy to do in terms of the mechanics might be risky in terms of identifying which pins connects to which channel), or install a second and larger patch bay on the back that would significantly tidy things up, and which strikes me as the preferable option. This would mean that mic inputs into the UAD would pass through two patch bays and a total of 6 XLRs before getting to the preamps. Now I'm guessing the above is as clear as mud, but thoughts welcome, I'll try and take some photos that might simplify stuff a little, but the main question relates to the wisdom of passing audio through multiple plugs/cables/patch bays. I've a good idea who'll likely be responding with their expertise and experience so thanks in advance 👍

He was 100% sarcastic which is why I warmed to John 👍

in fact I’m thinking if buying an Ibanez SRAS7 and uploading a regular Masterclass

It’s the new normal, the only thing worse than having stinky poo content on the internet is not having stinky poo content on the internet 👍

2-string can still be ERB if it’s long enough

One-string Teen Town Challenge anyone?

That's a fine looking collection mate 👍

Let's hope it was a commission sale and not an instrument they took in PX 🤔

Always wanted one, never one around when I had the cash

I don't think they do mate, yes there's certainly a lot of it, but there's other stuff also. But I struggle to find solo fretless that doesn't have that tone. I even listened to a demo of a beautiful acoustic fretless a few weeks back and, you guessed it, Jaco Very happy to be proved wrong

First time I played my 4003 FL live - the first track of a small gig playing Whole Lotta Love - the feeling of pure joy as I kicked in with THAT bassline wasn't just me, the whole band and some of the audience got it as well. For me it's a sound that just works on some tracks and not on others, I'd certainly have another Ric FL if one came up 👍

I'm a big fan of fretless in ensemble playing, but why do nearly all fretless soloists appear to produce the same nasal and vibrato-rich tone, almost irrespective of instrument and genre (dare I say the J word.....)?

He appears to know what he's doing 👍