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Anyone going to tell us how it plays and sounds?

[quote name='Chiliwailer' timestamp='1467460397' post='3083832'] Something keeps me looking at them, I'm intrigued. Yet I have a lovely Jazz I prefer, no money, and I'm not even into relics. So I blame this thread, entirely. And perhaps that this would be cool to own with my Modululs. However I'm managing the GAS and keeping the credit card and Jazz Bass safe, whilst saluting those that got in [/quote] With you there Dan

[quote name='Chiliwailer' timestamp='1467457584' post='3083798'] Only 1 left at guitar guitar now, there were 3 this morning and 4 last night. I've never seen a bass sell this quick, it has to be this thread, right? [/quote] I think a few folks suspect this batch will sell out immediately and that seeing this, Fender might either cut corners on the next batch, up the price significantly, or even discontinue it. It's Fender after all

Everyone else appears to be buying the new Fender Flea Sig

Funny thing about real wear is it often defies logic, my old '65 was worn in places it shouldn't have been whilst the finish was intact in places that should have been worn. I guess if a bass has been used by one player for 30 odd years (and in the days before Basschat it did happen), the idiosyncrasies of the player could be seen in the finish: how they played it, where they kept it, even how they carried it. Martin Simms makes relics with a story (studio bass, gigging bass etc) along these very lines. Re the bass in this thread, I think it's a bloody good job. far better than the Fender Roadworn series and most of the Custom Shop models (if you want to see poor relic work check out the Jaco relic, and that retails at over £4k). A few honest knocks from gigging will help with the bits that are still perhaps a little shiny

Wonderful on every level

Ha ha, this thread will still be going when the dinosaurs have returned

[quote name='police squad' timestamp='1467362499' post='3083057'] ordered online, so can easily be sent back. If it's anything like my Steve Harris West Ham bass (apart from the weight) it'll be very nice [/quote] Fair point

Bloody hell, I've yet to see a review let alone see one in the flesh. I do hope they're good or there's gonna be a lot of 'em popping up in the FS forum in the very near future

[quote name='4stringslow' timestamp='1467227274' post='3082146'] £400 over three years or £2.56 a week. Seems like 'fair use' to me. I wish my cars depreciated so little! [/quote] Yep, I buy and sell a lot of gear and see all my purchases as tryouts and/or rentals on which I expect to make a bit of a loss. I'm very happy to do so because I enjoy experiencing a variety of instruments, and like many here consider myself fortunate that I can scratch the retail itch regularly without incurring the losses that those who need to buy new shoes (MNN) endure. I have two basses - both vintage Precisions (one FL) - a double bass, a 70's strat, a mandolin and a Gibson acoustic that I've had for years and which are my mainstay instruments, but otherwise my gear is a moving feast on which I estimate I lose about 10% of the purchase value each time I sell, that loss which I'm happy to accept for the above reasons and also because once I've decided to sell something I'd rather let it go quickly so I can move on to something else. Money's a tool

[quote name='thodrik' timestamp='1467135347' post='3081424'] I have a 300 watt Mesa Walkabout that has been loud enough for pretty much every type of gig, from jazz, rock, doom, djent even when in 1x15 combo form. More speakers is always the best start. Speaker positioning can always help as well. Getting your band to pay attention to volume levels also helps. [/quote] I have a Mesa Walkabout combo and used to have a matching extension cab. The main problem when using the extension was that of not blowing the doors off the venue, it was unfeasibly loud. However, too much scooping and even that could disappear into the mix, so whilst the extra speaker and positioning is important, the EQ has to be appropriate also.

[quote name='lowhand_mike' timestamp='1467131558' post='3081392'] to be fair its what i read on here... [/quote] Yes but the people who've said it here have all too often picked it up through marketing themselves

[quote name='Bill Fitzmaurice' timestamp='1467114691' post='3081252'] Watts don't matter. You don't measure sound levels in watts, you measure it in decibels, and there's no direct correlation between the two. If there was a Vox AC30 wouldn't make your ears bleed from fifty feet away, nor would anyone be able to gig with an Ampeg B15. The simple fact of the matter is if you can't get the volume you want with one cab you need two cabs. [/quote] Yep, I had to sell my B-15 (25w) because it was far too loud for my needs (small studio), and far far louder than several other amps I've owned that were rated at over 10x the wattage. [quote name='Bill Fitzmaurice' timestamp='1467127835' post='3081362'] What you've been told comes mainly from marketing departments, usually through advertising. So yes, lies. [/quote] Ha ha, that's about the truth of it

[quote name='zero9' timestamp='1466959523' post='3080010'] I can only imagine that the 4b is more expensive to make. It has 4 recesses on top into which the feet of a stacked cab fit (the C4 doesn't). The 4b is physically larger and substantially deeper, thus you would imagine it'd produce deeper lows. I've run upto 4 x 4b's with DB and never found it lacking in lows. In fact I've had more issues with taming the low end (especially at medium to high volume), and end up cutting the lows from about 80Hz to 100Hz typically. Had I not already bought the 4b's (before the C4 was ever released) I would've opted for the C4 instead. [/quote] I think the point about taming excessive bass is spot on, I always suspect that lighter cabs do this less well? What does 'deeper lows' mean in the context of the PJB specs that suggest the lighter cab goes lower [quote name='dove' timestamp='1466959644' post='3080013'] Thanks Chris,long time! That was my gut feeling i.e bigger,heavier=better. It's hard to get solid advice from dealers.Any view on a single 8x5" cab versus 2 no. 4 x 5". More flexible yes but I always need 4ohms for both my EA and AI heads. [/quote] Hey Julian, for me flexibility is king, especially given the weight and size of these (PS we're now back in Canterbury - in fact I'm doing beers with Ali Atkin as we speak - let's catch up sometime?)

Frequency range and quality of tone are not one and the same mate. The lighter cheaper cab may theoretically go lower, but you need to ask how well it dies so and how relevant that extra range is in a gig situation. I'd go for the heavier cab myself, IME lightweight is always a compromise at one or more levels sound wise

Oil it to taste - light enough to not even be felt is OK as long as it's there - but don't leave it totally bare

[quote name='thebassist' timestamp='1465759659' post='3070813'] Is there? I've not seen any? I've seen a lovely pre-CBS Precision on here but no Jazz Basses. [/quote] My bad, on the phone and didn;t read the thread properly, no just Pre CBS Precisions here