Beedster

Yep, I thought that also, there are moments when there's a whole lot going on bass-wise but his right hand's not moving, nice work 👍

It's a whole lot easier/quicker/cheaper to do it these days than even a few years back. OK, most of magic of that video is the band for sure, but if you're wanting to know type of bass/amplification.FX/EQ with that tone in mind, I'd still say a lot of it is probably in the box. Doesn't take anything away for the performance, which is tight as 👍

Who knows, but the bass tone you're hearing could be exclusively DI and hugely processed. I don't know whether the host website have any clear production values that might prove me wrong, but given that for well over 50 years many very well known and respected live performances have been largely the result of studio production, I'd not put too much money on the audio on that track being exclusively from the room

I'll expand.... I've played in a lot of bands, some I auditioned for (both pro and am), some I was invited into, some I forced my way into (long story), and some have simply emerged from conversations with friends. By far the best have been the latter, and specifically the guys I'm playing with at present, who are 1) a guy I've known for 15 years as a friend but who seemed musically well above me (multi-instrumentalist/multi-genre), 2) a close friend with whom I've gigged a few times but with whom I've drunk beer and talked band ideas more times than I can remember, and 3) a good friend of his who is (was) a casual acquaintance of mine. It's a project I'll expand on here as it develops, but the main thing is that the core sentiment of the band is goodwill, there's not been one argument despite the fact that at least two of us are very good at arguing, everyone turns up at rehearsal having learned their parts, no-one is trying to take the lead, there's an implicit group decision making that is quite unusual in bands in my experience. But most of all, we enjoy playing the set and that means that at rehearsals, while we may arrive with the weight of a day's work/kids/families on our shoulders, 30-minutes in we're in the groove and I think it's fair to say we all leave feeling a whole lot better than we arrived. And I am by far the least talented member of the band! I've only ever been in one other band like it, and that band was the same, a group of friends. They are without doubt the two best bands I've had the pleasure of belonging to. Friendship is I think a major player in bands I'll update on this band's gigs etc in another thread as things develop 👍

Play with mates and only mates 👍

…. and fines a good revenue stream for 2025 @ped 😆

Indeed 👍🙏

Which doesn't mean they know what they are or even that they're using them

Ha ha, fair point, I'll go back to my 70's rock 👍

But back to the tone, over and above the skill of the player, isn’t the key determinant of the tone in the film the mix and production as opposed to the bass or live EQ?

Fair point, although Fenderbirds and Buzzards didn’t design themselves 😆

I wasn’t saying they’re intelligent, quite the opposite really given it seems they’ve knowingly chosen a crude catch-all method when something more subtle was required

Exactly, I prefer the look on Keith Moon’s face that indicated he had 0.1ms to decide which drum to hit next and was still struggling to (the Ox on the other hand, despite his brilliance, would have fitted the current aesthetic perfectly, although I suspect that rather than wondering what’s for supper during gigs he was contemplating new bass gear)

That’s just the current performance aesthetic, and I’m a bit over it to be honest. I like watching - and performing with -musicians on the edge, emoting over every nuance. Half that lot look like they’re wondering what’s for supper 😁

This ^ Life's too short not to give it a go. At least you're eyes wide open 👍

When I said they know what they’re doing, that’s exactly what I meant, they have no idea about effective regulatory policy in this space so are doing this simply to be seen to be doing something

I mean they know that it is unworkable but don’t care. 30 or 40 years ago they would have cared more about the effectiveness of policy. OK they may not have got it right, but there was a degree of good faith even in contentious policy. Now it’s policy for sake of appearance

The politicians aren’t the idiots, they know exactly what they’re doing and how (in)effective it will be. We’re the idiots for allowing them to.

So it’s placebo legislation and they know it is?

Music is a whole not parts. There’s lots of talent in that room and lots of good parts, but the music doesn’t work for me

It all feels extremely dystopian, can someone explain in simple terms the rationale for the legislation?

I guess the tech is amazing, but f*** me the arrangements and 'performances' most certainly are not. I'm guessing that like pitch correction, which at first was hard to detect but after a while you can just hear it, we'll get a feel for this sort of thing also

2024 was by far my most difficult year to date for a long list of personal, professional, and emotional reasons. It makes me even more determined to value and enjoy all life has to offer in 2025 🙏