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And coy I will remain @BigRedX Until very recently most sports were amateur simply because the Olympics only allowed amateur participation, so many if not most athletes had to make a living outside sport (and in some sport still do), but spectators still paid to watch, and promoters made a lot of money

...which is an interesting point

Yes to both I said so in the post 👍

Just thinking out loud here following a conversation with a bandmate..... I love gigging, and I never expect to get paid for a gig. When I do get paid it's a bonus, and I've always seen it this way. I've taken no fee for a gig and allowed the rest of the band to split the remainder. It's just the way I've always done things. OK, gigging costs me money, but I do it because I choose to. If the music venue make money out of our performance, all the better. Alongside music I've done a lot of sport, I was professional for a while but have been amateur for most of my career. The race fee for my sport can be several hundred pounds per event, competing requires equipment that in total cost way more than my gigging rig and instruments, and most of the events also have a large crowd and are monetised aggressively , i.e., the organisers make a lot of money from the crowd. So they're my two hobbies, playing music and playing sport. They're equivalent in many respects. I'm just wondering why that for 99% of the people i know in both, the expectation in the former is that you should be paid, the expectation in the latter is that you should pay? Genuinely interested in your thoughts as I've always found the "If there's no fee I'm not doing the gig" approach of some of my fellow musicians a bit weird given that music is clearly - in their case - nothing more than a hobby, and to be honest, a hobby that some of them are pretty crap at anyway (some of them are really not very good musicians, are in pretty average bands, and often complain about the lack of gigs.....)? I'm excluding pro bands/function bands of course 👍

Fine in some genres, not in others

It shouldn’t matter at all But it does

I never struggle with the hand end of things, I do struggle with timing and feel i.e. the brain end. A song that comes to mind is Down On The Corner by CCR where the line is simple but the timing deceptively hard, or at least a lot harder than a cursory listen and play-through would suggest

Yep, I'm sincerely hoping that my album band is going to do Rattus Norvegicus, and if so, I'm gonna play a Ric Only joking, but what I'd really hope to be able to do is to play the album in a way that the prog-esque technical and structural complexity comes through, as opposed to how I've seen Stranglers songs such as No More Heroes, Peaches etc played by many covers bands which more often than not makes them sound like Sham 69.

My intonation is so poor I'm having a 68" scale built

Yes, the shorter the scale the greater the impact on pitch if the same mms of incorrect finger placement

Looks like a £300 amp to me

This^ Thomann no doubt shift a whole lit more of those than PMT do. The economics of scale dictate price point. Buy it from Thomann

Likewise Sean, I joined Basschat (or whatever it was called then) in around 2005, still can't play the bass but f*** me I've bought some lovely ones here

Should we start the 'I'm Dave Crowley" "No, I'm Dave Crowley" thing

There's an old saying 'No news is good news', although I suspect there are exceptions

Yep

Yep that was a surprising lesson, drummist turns down his electronic kit but it's still just as loud!

That\s business, and in many respects it makes more sense than not supplying and in effect losing more money

None of 'em, every one I sold allowed me to buy, play, and gig something new (or at least, something a bit different). Our guitarist plays different guitars at every rehearsal, I'm sure he can hear the difference......

Oddly having just checked I'm getting emails for some PMs and not for others and it looks systematic, i.e., if I get an email for one message in the thread I seem to get an email for all messages in that thread, but vice versa also

Might be my phone however 👍

The red dot thing I mentioned a while back 👍