Beedster

... but all joking aside, one of the problems with our brains is that whilst every cell in our body says one thing, our brains deliberate and vacillate. I suspect you know there's only one way out of this, talking results in a ceasefire but rarely a permanent change

A drummer who can't drum is quite acceptable and not unusual, a drummer who can't drive is a liability

You gotta try and find one of these mate, wish I still had it, I could plug my Precision straight in to those massive tubes........

You can often pick up any of these on the forums/eBay in the UK. I certainly would not recommend going to Warmoth for a new neck, they are very expensive and my experience of their 'customer service' left a lot to be desired. Allparts necks are VERY good, as good as Warmoth but cheaper, Mighty Mite slightly less so to be honest (Allparts I'd put happily at Fender USA standard, Mighty Mite perhaps more Squier)

I feel your pain bro, a Precision neck on a Jazz is a very good option for both playability and tone (re the latter, don't listen to the folks who say the neck makes no difference)! You can do what I do, build a very nice bespoke bass from parts from here and eBay that will likely be as good if not better than most production models and probably a lot cheaper. I currently have a lovely FL Jazz with a unlined Warmoth Precision neck (44mm at the nut) with ebony board, a stunning mahogany (I think) body, Wizard 64's, CTS circuit with series/parallel, and ashtrays, all of which I pulled in from here and eBay for under £250 by searching around and being patient. The same quality bass new would be at least £1000. Only downside is that it weighs the same as several trucks

Sad that the Ric Police don’t pick up on that sort of stuff with the same enthusiasm they reserve for everything else Ric?

Irony is that, as I discovered this afternoon when playing my daughters' requests through my tube amp and (semi) decent speakers, much of the music being produced currently DOES sound better through a cheap system. My daughters loved listening to Taylor Swift really loud through Daddy's speakers either way. There is science to this, but it's not acoustics, you could say it's psychoacoustics but it's more than that really. Psychology and neuroscience research has made it pretty clear that expectation and sensation interact to produce perception. In this context, most problematic is the fact that the greater the expectation the greater the effect (true of pre-CBS versus MIJ Fenders etc etc). But there's only one reality that matters, and that's the one your neurons are dealing with as you listen. And given that expectation is a function of so many things - income, education, taste, experience, experience, expertise (and perceived expertise) - there's no way of standardising the relative quality of anything really. I'm glad I've got cheap tastes and limited expertise

I'm no expert, but I have some views! 1. I have never played a bad pre-EB, whilst I have played and owned a few decidedly average EBs, and one that was ****ing awful. 3-band EQ is a factor for sure in many of the comparisons, it should be better, it isn't 2. Pre EBs seems to be able to do a Precision tone far better than EBs. I need that, many don't, but I think it says something about them as an instrument. 3. Whilst I doubt if I measured the action there'd be a difference, pre-EBs have always felt much more playable to me, they feel and play like the Modulus basses I've owned, I've never found an EBMM that did the same I have a late-70s and an early 90's MM at present. I have £2000 invested in the former and about £800 in the latter. The EBMM is to my ear and feel a very good example of a post-EB. So, I thought that if the two were equivalent I could sell the pre-EB as I'm currently paying for a load of building work. However, I felt the neck wasn't as good as the pre-EB so decided to buy a Status neck for it (thought it might do the Modulus thing). Guess what, it's SO much better, tone, playability, etc. But, it ain't the pre-EB. Is it worth the £1100 invested in it, hell yes, in fact much more. I plug it into my SVT and it sounds awesome. But I plug in the pre-EB to the same rig.............. WOW. It's an entirely qualitative difference, not more or less of anything, just a different thing entirely. Dan (Chiliwailer) really knows his stuff, so I'm not putting this up against him, it's just an alternative viewpoint. His thoughts reflect everything I've experienced with Fender, where perhaps 50% of pre CBS are better than the rest others. With MMs I'd put that at closer to 90%. I've had many basses that I'd never sell and sold all but two of them, my pre-EB and an old Precision FL. Look forward to reading further posts on this thread Chris