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[quote name='bassace' timestamp='1470250769' post='3104518'] Just a timely reminder that the bash is a couple of months away at Risley Park Hotel, Derby Rd, Risley, DE72 3SS. It's an easy run in from M1 Junction 25. Sunday 2 October from 10.30. The morning will be a meet and greet, set up stuff and walk round. In the afternoon we propose to have some informal 'discussions' so that we can share advice on various topics. For example I'll bring some preamps and we can discuss these and their benefits/uses. So are there any other topics that you would like to discuss. £10 will get you tea/coffee and a buffet lunch and all welcome, especially newbies and those contemplating starting out on DB. Please add your name to the list if you will be coming. [/quote] I'd love to come to this, but frankly I don't want to spend 8-hours in the car to talk pre-amps or anything else for that matter, we can talk about gear on BC. If I was going to drive that far I'd want to do one thing and one thing only, play lot of different DBs. I'd happily bring my three up if it felt like it was worth the journey?
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Ah man, that is SUCH a great bass. I sold it, get this, because at the time I had two maple fretless 70's Precisions (I kept the one that had been modified with a J-PUP). It had the more resonant of the two bodies (both had been stripped), but I felt I need the extra PUP. The neck on this is amazing, Martin - Simms not Peterson by the way David - did an incredible job, truly incredible. It had been played with rounds, and as happened with these boards, the wood was starting to show and discolour. Martin not only reversed all the wear, but managed to blend it all with the original finish thereby keeping the vintage looks albeit with a factory-fresh feel. I would genuinely love this bass back, it really is a player. The body refin looks incredibly well done also.
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[quote name='SubsonicSimpleton' timestamp='1470302404' post='3104841'] 500 quid for an abused G4M ply that probably cost less than 400 quid new [/quote] Yes, but in the seller's favour that's only about £1 per hour of abuse! Worse, I think they're trying to suggest that the mods ADD value! Board planed flat..........
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And if you really want a project http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Double-Bass-Upright-Bass-/322215251580?hash=item4b05868e7c:g:0nsAAOSwdzVXoJwr
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[quote name='DanOwens' timestamp='1470262818' post='3104674'] I have a nice Czech upright... fully carved but in such a horrible state. I'm on the lookout for either a replacement or something more refined. In wanting to buy second-hand I suppose I'm considering all options, but I can't afford to spend money on a gamble really. Ta! [/quote] I spent months looking for either a decent complete 4/4 or a 4/4 project and got fed up with seeing total crap being peddled as 'vintage' or 'retro'. Most of the 'vintage' instruments were in fact absolute bottom of the pile quality-wise that came largely from schools, who no longer need DBs and don't have the space to keep them, and which therefore find their way to the type of ebay/private seller who sees a profit in every opportunity (there's a few sellers out there who appear to have hundreds of the things but only sell them one at a time perhaps trying to give the impression that the instrument in question has been 'played by me for many years' etc). I gave up and bought one of these [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/311553447960?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT."]http://www.ebay.co.u...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT.[/url] It's huge and a lovely piece of wood. I'm going to do the finish myself (I'm having some very light oil custom made by a luthier), the bridge and nut are currently being cut to my spec. It's going to be, I hope, rather loud
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FS: '65 Precision, Modulus Flea, USA '75 RI Jazz
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[quote name='DanOwens' timestamp='1470259059' post='3104628'] Thanks so much for such thorough advice from everyone (even you Thunderbird!!). I might not even pop over on Friday now, it seems the fuel might not be worth it. [/quote] Having now looked at the photos on a decent screen, that might be the best bet Dan
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I have GES and GAS at the same time, albeit each in relation to different gear - a set of firmly established instruments and gear on the one hand, and a loose coalition of gear that comes and goes as GAS dictates. Good thing is that I rarely buy anything unless I've also sold something so it's a relatively cost neutral exercise that keeps me entertained. Having said that, GAS has been less of a problem of late Dan, in part because I think I've now owned every single bass that was on my list. I have you to thank for most of them Chris
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[quote name='DanOwens' timestamp='1470227183' post='3104240'] Thanks everyone. My other bass is with Sam Wells at the moment and I'm paying £350ish for half of the repairs that this one needs. I'll attend, have a look and see how it goes. BeeroftheBass how did you know it was plywood? [/quote] Ha ha, it's quite literally shouting I'M PLYWOOD in the pictures Having said that, someone's going to be along in a minute saying it's fully carved.....
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[quote name='Beer of the Bass' timestamp='1470225359' post='3104215'] That's a plywood bass, but potentially a decent one. It might not be made in London unless it's clearly marked as such - Selmer were in the import business and many similar looking basses came from Germany. I'd have a look in through the f-holes to check that the end blocks aren't cracked and the bass bar isn't coming detached, as those would be expensive repairs. Even if it's all healthy you could easily spend as much again (or perhaps a bit more) getting it set up and playable though, which is something to bear in mind. [/quote] Agree with all of that also
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Ha ha, check the seller's username! Dan, personally I would take a chance but at no more than £200, and that's assuming that when you see it there are no surprises. The neck looks very thin, and the lack of photos of the top end of the board, perhaps an oversight, is something to keep in mind. Good luck and keep us posted. A DB project is a wonderful thing! C
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[quote name='DanOwens' timestamp='1470215779' post='3104091'] The soundpost is currently taped behind the fingerboard (I think). If I can't see cracks or gaps in seams, are there other structural things I should be aware of? Dan [/quote] The problem is Dan that, as I said above, unless the bass is built up many of the structural problems won't be apparent, lack of integrity of the surfaces around the soundpost being a good example, but other obvious issues are endpin joint, neck joint and board, body joints that look fine when not under stress but which open up once the strings are up to pitch etc etc. Bottom line is that it's a gamble, if you can afford the gamble, do it. If buying this instrument ties up your funds and means you can't buy another if this one falls to pieces, don't buy it.
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You can sometimes check for ply construction by looking at the wood in the f-holes, depending on the degree of finish present. Unless it's very cheap (couple of hundred quid tops), and given it sounds like you don't really know what you're looking at, I wouldn't buy it. You can buy perfectly good DBs for £400-500 used, and unless you have seen a bass built to ascertain its structural integrity, and played it to ensure it has a half decent tone and projection (both of which can be tweaked but only by so much), you might as well buy firewood. An instrument that's in pieces likely hasn't been played or maintained for a while, and unlike electric basses, DBs need both. As Phil said, post some details and/or pics on here and you'll get a more informed opinion.
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[quote name='Musicman20' timestamp='1470125729' post='3103339'] I would love a Modulus. I wish they would go back into production... [/quote] There's a nice black one VERY cheap in the FS forum...... [quote name='hiram.k.hackenbacker' timestamp='1470140293' post='3103508'] I've got both a Stingray with a Status neck and a Modulus Flea and they are completely different animals. [/quote] Yep, totally agree, despite the popular idea that Flea switched to Modulus to get a more reliable 'Ray (especially the neck apparently), they are pretty different animals. My graphite necked 'ray was extremely aggressive tonally and was really quite hard to tame. The Modulus, whilst of course doing aggressive very well, is a far more versatile and tameable beast
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FS: '65 Precision, Modulus Flea, USA '75 RI Jazz
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With some regret given the interest from overseas in both the Flea and the '65, it's looking like the sales will need to be UK only, unless someone can point me in the direction of a courier that will cover musical instruments over £1000 in value. I found couriers that will cover instruments but only up to £1000, and couriers that will cover up to £2000 in value but not musical instruments. Whilst a couple of folks have indicates that they're happy to take a risk, I'm not sure I am. Chris -
FS: '65 Precision, Modulus Flea, USA '75 RI Jazz
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FS: '65 Precision, Modulus Flea, USA '75 RI Jazz
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FS: '65 Precision, Modulus Flea, USA '75 RI Jazz
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[quote name='njr911' timestamp='1470047453' post='3102846'] I wan't all three of these basses...the GAS never stops does it. GLWTS [/quote] Death, taxes and GAS, the facts of life [quote name='Sibob' timestamp='1470054622' post='3102911'] Mmmmmm, happiness is a warm P! As much as the '65 has me revisiting my 'I'd like a 60's Precision' feelings again, I'm not quite sure it's enough for me to move on my '71 P.......hmmmmm Si [/quote] Si, if the 71's a keeper, keep it mate. I have a real special affection for really early 70's Precisions, probably more than I do for late 60's models. No idea why, just seemed to be some real gems in those golden years? Of course, you could have both ...... -
FS: '65 Precision, Modulus Flea, USA '75 RI Jazz
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[quote name='Johnnysonic' timestamp='1469999578' post='3102633'] On the 65 Precision, I have to say that the tuners are not 'period correct', except for one. Three are later reissues. Also, the L plate is an earlier one, dating from early '63. I suspect that the bass might be a 'bitzer'. Not knocking it, just saying. It looks like a nice bass all the same. Johnny [/quote] Thanks Johnny, fair points. Just to clarify, the tuners are, as I say above, 'period correct' in that given the possible range of tuners that could be retro-fitted to a Fender bass, these are correct albeit with a slight difference in gearing (i.e., design, footprint, reverse winding etc are all correct for the era). If you're saying they're not original '65 Fender, yep, I agree, but I'd hoped that's what I's also said above, hence the drop in price. The plate is technically from '63, it could have been put on after the fact, it could be a case of classic Fender QC (re QC, it makes me laugh given the general vibe around anything pre-CBS, that to paraphrase some aficionados, "things had really started to slip at Fullerton by late '62"). I take your point about 'bitsas', but to an extent all Fender's with the possible exception of masterbuilds are bitsas, and having spent several months in 2008 trawling the top end of vintage shops trying to find the perfect pre-CBS Precision (and in many cases annoying the staff by insisting that any bass I was interested in was taken apart to allow me to check the things you need to check before parting with £5k+), it was pretty sobering just how many very expensively priced instruments in very reputable shops had components (e.g., neck and pots), as well as serial number that didn't agree, and often by far more than two years (and quite a few 'pre-CBS instruments turned out to be somewhat post-CBS). Many lengthy discussions ensued about the originality and authenticity of pre-CBS Fenders, and one thing that I came away with was the sense that, not unlike the art and antiques markets, it's hard to be 100% sure about anything. Anyway, it is what it is. As I said above, it's not and never will be a collector's instrument. It is however a glorious bass, and that's the key selling point. To me it's worth every penny of the asking price as an instrument, and whilst I claim no more expertise than anyone else on here, in bass terms I know a decent instrument when I see one (and I've owned sufficient 70's Precisions to know what the bad one's feel, play and sound like, trust me). Let's put it into context, at £2.5k you'll be paying less than the retail price of a contemporary Custom Shop Precision for this bass, and given what I've seen 60's parts go for on eBay, it's probably worth more than the asking price in parts alone. I'd welcome any other comments re authenticity and originality, because the more reasons you folks give me to keep this, beauty the happier I'll be, although the kids might have to wait a little longer for the boat Cheers Chris -
FS: '65 Precision, Modulus Flea, USA '75 RI Jazz
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I've been going back through my rather lengthy bass records, and need to revise the details of the Precision (original listing when I sold it first time around here http://basschat.co.uk/topic/134893-fs-65-precision-3tsb-l2500/page__p__1229442__hl__'65 precision__fromsearch__1#entry1229442) 1. The tuners are not the originals although they are period correct 2. The pickguard is not original although it is original mid-60s. It has to be said that I'd not taken this bass apart before, so was unaware of the modifications to the neck pocket. All these things considered, alongside the non-original PUP, I'm dropping the price for the '65 to £2,500, but will not take a penny less. Given that US Reissue Precisions are creeping up towards the £2k mark, this is a major bargain, and a relatively pain-free step into the pre-CBS Fender market for some lucky BCer. And trust me, it is one absolutely lovely instrument -
Framus 'Black Rose' PR ICE DROP!!! now £1250
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FS: '65 Precision, Modulus Flea, USA '75 RI Jazz
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FS: '65 Precision, Modulus Flea, USA '75 RI Jazz
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[quote name='tommorichards' timestamp='1469916183' post='3102036'] Im extremely tempted by the flea bass. I eagerly await more pictures. [/quote] Ahead of my posting new pics here's the original thread with pics http://basschat.co.uk/topic/286044-modulus-flea-bass-sold-subject-to-the-usual-stuff/page__fromsearch__1 -
FS: '65 Precision, Modulus Flea, USA '75 RI Jazz
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