Beedster
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This ^ And to reinforce Jack's point, the action is (implied to be) high to excessively high but with no obvious means of lowering it given it's a fixed height and composite bridge. Taking that to a standard wooden instrument luthier will be like taking a Landrover Discovery to your local MOT garage, they're either going to rub their hands with glee at the projected income or make a complete mess of it. Or both
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All of that plus I'd be concerned that I'd struggle to find a tech/luthier to work on a composite instrument, from the tech's POV wood's easy and forgiving material, composite less so 👍
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Fender aren't alone after all
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I think you're overestimating their ability to play psychological games in the marketplace (which would anyway amount to Russian Roulette), and underestimating the level of hard-wired groupthink in Fender. Much as the engineers at Apple used to be somewhere between tears and hysteria at the unveiling of a new model that was at best an incremental improvement on the previous model, the folks at Fender see this Innovation Series as innovation plain and simple. I imagine there's a sign placed directly over the entrance to the Fender Boardroom, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it....'.
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Yes, certainly there were production models from the early 80s and several models since, notably IMO a lovely recent Jazz Bass with ebony neck, blocks and binding (although I forget the model) -
Do you have pics of all the basses Andy....?
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Fair point, not unlike the Ric 5'er or EBMM shortie then? It's probably worth calibrating our expectations of Fender by comparison with what is (or has been) considered innovative in the case of other instruments? Double bass for example, um, graphite end-pin? Acoustic guitar, bowl backs? Drums, um..........?
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Legend 🙏
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Or Ford 👍
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I don't disagree Dan 👍
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Agreed 100% unless they’re using a strict click to record and OP is not used to playing to one 👍
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Do you know which PUP and circuit they are Dan? As I mentioned the other day, I'm planning to out-innovate Fender on this with a Jazz body routed for MM PUP and a Status Graphite Jazz neck; it'll sit somewhere between the Modulus Flea and the Fender Active Flea Jazz sig you have - give it 5-years and Fender will release it as the Beedster Signature model 👍
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Sell it to me, it'll make it feel better 👍
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@david1711 apologies as I'm guessing my comments were not entirely helpful given the above. If it's any consolation, I was working under the impression that my old Jazz neck was also original for quite a long time, IIRC it was @wateroftyne who pointed out my error, which set me to researching what seemed to me at the time the rather surprising history of fretless instruments at Fender; specifically that with the exception of a couple of prototypes, there no factory fretless Jazz Basses until the mid-late 80's, and I think even then they were MIJ. Given that - certainly as far as bassists were concerned - one of the most iconic Fender instruments of the 70's/80's was Jaco's Jazz, it struck me as odd. Anyway, following brief PM chat with @BassBod I was looking for some info about my old neck yesterday evening and came across a post by @AndyTravis from years back indicating that he'd worked on what sounded like an identical neck (i.e., early 70's bound Jazz Bass neck with replacement fretless ebony board), so I'm guessing there are at least two of them out there. Re the similarity, I guess it's possible that the split in the binding at the heel is part and parcel of getting the binding off to replace the board...? Anyway, your neck looks to be in exceptional condition as well as nicely done, all the best with the sale. A neck of similar quality and specification from Warmoth would probably come in at a higher price than you're asking for a lovely vintage piece with a whole lot of mojo and history. Apologies again for the derail 👍
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Right Fender, wrong manufacturer
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Nice one Dan, good to hear (and of course an example of Fender innovating)
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Man I've been looking for one of those for ages.......
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Jeez that’s a lot of rig for not a lot of cash 👍 -
Seller seems quite up front?
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The model name is innovative 👍
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Ashdown Geezer Butler Head OF Doom - ON HOLD - *SOLD*
Beedster replied to walshy's topic in Amps and Cabs For Sale
People seem to be forgetting the basics here -
Let's not forget that Fender were innovating in the late 70's; neck pockets significantly larger than the heel allowing the user to align the neck on the hoof with the equally innovative offset bridge, multiple layers of varnish on the neck allowing the user's hands to stick in place more efficiently, added weight allowed the player to secure better mechanical link with the floor (see Badass Bridge discussion) no doubt alleviating the need for later generations to invent the Buttkicker.......... Only joking, love 70's Fenders 👍
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Ah, a coincidence and a half!
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That one kinda looked like it had been dragged around by the headstock for most of its life
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Early '70s IIRC, the board had not been especially well done and needed some wizardry from Paul to get it right. I bought it to go on a mongrel '71 P/J I had at the time but realised after all the hassle and work that the bass in question worked better with a Precision neck 🤔 It was also an expensive lesson in not trusting everything an apparently expert and highly rated musical instrument dealer tells you about a neck 😡
