GreeneKing

Another bump and adding that if anyone has a nice earlier Warwick NT Thumb 4 and they're looking for a mint Jazz deluxe give me a pm.

Peter

I can't find the link so don't know what you're looking at in terms of condition and cost.

I've got one for sale in the for sale section, neck dive sorted too if you're interested, and it's shiny black.

Never been rogered by an Entwistle as far as I'm aware.

Peter

Bump at £800

I got my defunkt Jazz deluxe back today all working fine. I suspect they fitted a new pre.

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I noticed the hardcase is new and unlike the old one it opens and closes without the common Fender 'crunch' where these cases get bent along the hinge side. So they've noticed the case was imperfect and replaced it!

I checked the accessories drawer and they've put 2 new Duracell batteries in and a set of strings.

Bloody brilliant.

It's now up for sale again.

Peter

The Jazz is all sorted and is back on the market.

Peter

Is it possible that the bridge earth has come adrift somewhere?

Maybe put a wire from earth on a pot to the bridge and see if the hum goes?

Peter

A real improvement, now all you need is a maple fretboard!

Mmmmmm... So that's what the top horn is for

[quote]Hello, welcome to the Basschat community, tell us a bit about yourself and stick around and join in! I reckon the price is good for a mint example available now, so best of luck.[/quote]

+1

[quote]t's a nonsense not to be able to debate the value of a bass on this Forum.[/quote]

In your opinion?

Maybe it's polite to pm in the 1st instance. It's not about debating the value of a bass on the forum, it's about someone trying to sell a bass in the for sale section and sometimes negative (or even positive) and open comments are misinformed.

To give an example, if I pm someone because I think someone is overpricing something they have a chance to justify their price to me before their sale gets 'pissed all over'.

It's just about giving seller a chance to respond without trashing their sale, just polite (and apparently in accordance with the 'guidelines).

Peter

Well as the original owner/creator (?) of this great bass I'm glad it's stuck and someone is appreciating it's 'Villexness'.

Peter

Hiya Edd

You could always give Nick Carey a ring re a lesson. He's on here someplace and I've heard very good.

Peter

[quote]Not being funny but arnt they 1100 new or something??[/quote]

Maybe better as a pm to seller?

Peter

Microbass II sold almost immediately, now there's a surprise

And here was me thinking it was the name of some German heavy metal bassist!

So is the 'Limited Edition' bit just down to the gloss black finish or is the Alder special for an Epi T'bird too I wonder.

Thanks for that Ped. I did German at college until I offered that 'Die Heinz' was german for baked beans! (I was half asleep when asked the question and my 'mate' whispered it in my ear). They didn't seem to want me after that

Peter

Another bump, still available, still great basses at good prices - honest!

Alan I've pm'd you on this.

Peter

Yo

I bought my 97 Flea from Marcus and it's fitted with an Aguilar OBP-3 Pre -amp.

It is of course the absolute untimate Flea ( ).

I'd just like to add to the discussion that the neck is really good, 11 yrs old, no problems at all, no trussrod no worries etc. In fact good is definately an understatement.

Clattery? The most single significant thing about this bass to my mind, bar none, is the fact that all the benefits of a 'perfect' neck are there with real warmth of tone.

I keep on wanting to pop an ACG pre-amp in though, just to experience that incredible tone on the most playable of necks. Anyone want to make me an offer on the Agui?

Peter

The 02 is quite tiny. I put one in a non Fender Jazz (Allparts?) body this week and had to mod the wood a little. The one in my rear routed Warmoth P has oodles of room.

Peter

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I've messaged the seller to ask him if it's fretless as the frets appear ground right back to the board.

He says they are indeed 'flat' and acknowledges that may make it fretless.

I suggested he might like to add that info

So, do you think that someone has ground the frets down or was it made that way?

Peter

Good post BigRedX and your comments about the ACG pre are wholeheartedly +1'd. Do you have ACG EQ01's or 02's?

This thread has certainly helped me straighten the whole thing in my head and the issue is about the quality of the pre-amp in the bass given the inherent limitations of power supply and space/weigh issues.

[quote]It is an accurate reflection for the bass I mentioned (I wasn't talking about all basses).[/quote]

I believe you



Peter

[quote]which is why I am glad most circuits have a pull-passive,[/quote]

I'm not so sure that's an accurate reflection on things. One of my active basses has an active/passive switch, out of about 14.

I sense some confusion between active pickups and active basses. Most of my basses are active and none of them have active pickups.

As I understand it, the signal from an active pickup is enhanced by the use of a power supply and this signal is led to either a pre amp in the bass or one somewhere else.

Once pedals and effects are added into the signal path the whole active/passive subtlety surely becomes slightly incidental?

So powered basses, is this the way ahead, get rid of the battery and get some stable and more powerful watts in there?

Peter

I think that the key point here is the actual nature of the onboard pre-amp, or indeed any pre amp. Placing a pre in the bass must have it's limiting factors I suspect and maybe this is where some (many?) active basses fail to make the grade when compared with a passive bass amplified via a more sophisticated unit in the amp or wherever?

Joe I assume that the Greengrove is onboard? Not like you to have exclusive gear

It can be done well, I have no doubts about that. I think my initial point that there's no such thing as a passive sound is still valid to me (well there is but its VERY quiet).

Peter

Another thread has got me thinking about the whole passive/active thing and I think it'd be better served bringing it out into its own arena.

I have at times been through a 'passive phase' where I listen to the tone I'm producing and think 'Wow' that's it, and where active tones seem somehow 'over-engineered'. Equally at other times I think that passive basses sound a bit weak and that an active bass has much more 'presence'.

On reflection I wonder if this whole subjective topic isn't just surrounded by an excess of hype (posh word for bullshit).

Basically, as I see it, there's actually no such thing as a passive sound. Why? Because all solid bodied basses need to be amplified to be heard and that the signal processing involves a pre-amp and an amp. Okay the pre-amp can be in the bass (making it an active bass) on the floor (Microbass II etc) or most usually as a stage in the main amplifier but the net result is surely the same i.e. the signal from the pickups is amplified through two ( or more) stages. The fact that a passive bass may have a cut only tone control is surely negated by the amplifiers active EQ, usually constructed around the amplifier's pre-amp.

So, what am I saying? Essentially there's no difference betwen a 'passive' bass and an 'active' one? Given that the onboard pre in an active bass and the 'other' pre used with a passive bass are similar then yes, that is what I'm saying.

Passive basses are only passive untill they hit an amplifier then they're active basses.

Of course I could be swayed in all this subjective tone stuff by the seductive qualities of the ACG EQ02 pre-amp that I have installed onto the two basses I find myself playing most often at the moment. I have to add that my Modulus Flea gets equal 'up' time with it's Aguilar pre but I can't help thinking what an ACG pre would sound like in it

Peter

[quote]Any EQ controls available to you, not specifically active ones, could just as easily be used to do this, the semi-parametric EQ on Eden amplifiers/pre-amplifiers is a brilliant tool for this kind of thing.[/quote]

Effectively the EQ on amp/pre amps is active as I understand it.

Passive tone shaping is cut only, no boost (ignoring Villex for the sake of confusing the issue) so projecting a frequency through the mix isn't going to happen with passive bass mounted controls or in fact any 'passive' shaping.

I do think the point I was trying to make here, which may be better placed in its own thread, has been missed.

It could just be that it wasn't very well made

Peter