mike257

Used to play with a drummer who had a 24, massive ride cymbals are the best!

It's lovely mate!! And we can all stop holding our breath, tension was killing me!

Great to see all the diverse interests everyone has! When I'm cheating on my four strings, it's usually with the guitar - I've spent more and more time on it as a songwriting tool over the years, although in the last couple of years I've got a fair amount of band hours under my belt on guitar which has done wonders for my playing (and confidence!). Drumming is my secret love - I rarely get the chance to have some time on the kit, but love it when I do. I'm always driving the missus nuts drumming along to things on my legs/table/steering wheel, keeps me thinking about rhythm all the time which is great. It also makes me unbeatable on the Guitar Hero drumkit Also play a bit of keys, and have done programming and samples for a few bands in the past. Haven't done it for a while, but would like to get back into it, even if I do just fall into my old habits of poorly impersonating Trent Reznor. I think banjo might be my next new one, had a quick go recently and loved it!

Looks great - I'd love a kit at home, but I've been told I've got to wait until we get a house with a garage that I can soundproof! Occasionally dabble on the drums, but being a lefty I very rarely get my hands on a kit the 'right' way round for me! The drummer I've been playing with for the last 12 months has a beautiful Pearl Masters MCX (in red sparkle, tasty!) that I get to have the occasional rattle on. I quiet often get bruised legs from my home drumming practice, really should get a practice pad instead!!

One of the guitarists in my ex-band, The Buffalo Riot, blew me away on a weekly basis. He'd been all round the houses and played everything, but in this band he was effectively the pedal steel player. Only he did it with a guitar, a volume pedal, a tiny amp and a dash of reverb. If you closed your eyes you would swear you were hearing great steel playing, the sounds he coaxed out of it were amazing. Made it look and sound effortless too.

Cheers fellas! I promise we'll all play nice in there too. Now I'm off to find out which pedal can make me sound like Slash for under £50.

[quote name='geoffbassist' timestamp='1325789282' post='1487823'] What worries me is that adding a guitar section would have a general impact on the whole. [/quote] This is the objection I don't understand. If it's only visible to existing bc members, it'll be the same bunch of people, discussing a common interest in the same bc tone we know and love. It's not rebranding to bassandguitarchat.co.uk! What's this effect it will have on the rest of the place?

[quote name='silddx' timestamp='1325785670' post='1487717'] That's brilliant! Thanks so much for even considering it. [/quote] What he said!

I've got an ordinary Behringer V-Amp (the desktop guitar one, not bass) and have tracked bass through it for home demos - there's a couple of clean 'studio preamp' settings (can't remember the exact name) that I've managed to get a reasonable tone from. You can also bypass the amp/cab modelling completely and use it as a direct in. It 'does the job' in a cheap and cheerful way, and gives me passable sounds for demoing with both instruments. Wouldn't use it on anything I was going to release, but I've had a good 8 years out of it as a demoing tool. It's recently gone faulty, and I'll probably replace it with the same thing again if I can find one cheap on th'ebay.

[quote name='Fat Rich' timestamp='1325765711' post='1487213'] Only problem with that is if it becomes really popular and attracts a lot of guitarists to join Basschat, who then start asking a lot of novice questions in the bass sections or start taking the micky out of us like they do in real life It's probably a small risk but I'd prefer not to change the feel and vibe of Basschat as on the whole it's pretty excellent. [/quote] But that's the point of making it a subforum that's only visible to members - it's not going to attract lots of guitarists because they won't know it's there! Off Topic is currently not visible to non-members - you can't see it when you are not logged in, and therefore it's not picked up on by search engines either, so doesn't appear in Google search results etc. If a guitar subforum was set up the same way, it's not going to attract hordes of guitarists because only registered BC members would see it existed!

[quote name='Machines' timestamp='1325764674' post='1487188'] I think a subforum that just caters for members here would be preferable to opening the gates to all (personal, not official opinion) [/quote] I think that's all anybody is really asking for. Can't see how it would cause any upset!

[quote name='mrdreadful' timestamp='1325763297' post='1487160'] Nah, circular arguments are way more productive... [/quote] If only we had a 'Like' button.....

How did you get on? Have they introduced you to any exciting new bands to get your head round for lesson two? Hope it went well mate!

I didn't know they had many original bands on there - I'd always known of it as a festival for tribute bands (hence Glaston-budget, because you're getting the budget version of the bands!!). I know a friend of the missus goes pretty much every year and has raved about it being a great atmosphere and a really good time. Congrats for getting picked, and as everyone has said, make what you can of it. If nothing else, you'll have a weekend of music and a good laugh with your band, and playing a fairly well known fezzy like that can only be good for your reputation. Enjoy it!!

[quote name='daz' timestamp='1325714331' post='1486639'] Frankly a guitar section would swamp us with idiots, and many old established members would get peed of and move on to some more Stalinist forum like Talkbass. [/quote] [quote name='geoffbassist' timestamp='1325752898' post='1486962'] Why dont people who want a guitar ( or banjo,tuba...whatever) just go to a relevant guitar forum. That way people who want a bass forum can go to a bass forum, not a 'bass with a bit of guitar' forum. Say no to basschatwithabitogguitar.co.uk! [/quote] Nobody mentioned throwing the doors open for an influx of guitarists to join the forum - just to have somewhere for Basschat members who also have an interest in the skinnier string to have a place to discuss it. As it's been said, there doesn't seem to be any guitar forums with the same 'atmosphere' as BC (not enough bass players on them!) and as a sub-forum that only members can see, it's not inviting any non bassists into the fold. It wouldn't even show up on Google search results as being here! One additional subforum doesn't throw the balance off, or create a massive amount of extra work, or cause us to degenerate into a squabbling mess - it'd just be a place to discuss another aspect of music that many of us are interested in. If people don't like it they can (like the many members who don't like Off Topic) just not click on it!

I think there's enough BC members who either moonlight as guitarists or have at least a passing interest to make it a worthwhile addition as a subforum. As others have said, the community on basschat is a rare breed, and an equivalent guitar forum doesn't seem to exist - often because of the sheer size they swell to. A subforum, maybe only visible to members as previously suggested, would mean we aren't going to ve "overrun" by non-bass playing members, but those of us who are interested in both have.got somewhere to discuss it. What harm could that do?

I've always leaned towards putting pitch-based effects as early in the signal chain as possible, to give them a clean signal to track from, so I'd be inclined to keep it in front of the volume pedal for that reason.

[quote name='MacDaddy' timestamp='1325668991' post='1485757'] ...and the Pod M9 and12 boards - although they don't have amp sims. [/quote] The Pod and the M-series are different products - the M5, M9, M13 are purely for effects and have no amp sim - they're supposed to augment or replace your pedalboard. The Pod stuff contains the effects, amp simulation and speaker/mic modelling and is intended to replace the whole pedals/amp/cab signal path and allow you to go direct into a PA or recording interface without all that heavy lifting! Bartelby is right on the money with the Pod X3 Pro, sounds like just what you're after.

I've found that the hardest thing for any beginner on guitar is actually changing between the chord shapes fluently - that's the bit that will try their (and your!) patience, so go easy with them on it and dobt expect it to come too quickly.

It's hard to keep up with what they're into! Our oldest is 13, she's well into her rock bands, Paramore, You Me At Six andn Deaf Havana are her favourites right now. I'd find out what their favourites are in the first lesson (or before, if you can get a heads up from the parents) and try and tailor it to that from early on. They're probably just old enough that you won't have to learn any Hannah Montana songs!

I guess a lot of the basic theory/musical knowledge stuff stays much the same - note names, rhythms etc can be taught in the same way. Age of the students will make a big difference - I got a book and a half size guitar to try teaching our youngest (she was 6 at the time) and it started with basic one note 'songs' that functioned as basic rhythm exercises, moving to two/three note stuff with simple repetitive patterns. When it starts touching on chords, it uses simple three string stuff up on the skinny strings, with minimal fretting. Older kids will probably lose interest at that level much more quickly - I got our oldest interested by doing the basics very quickly and then teaching her songs by her favourite band. In hindsight I probably jumped the gun a bit, as once she'd got her head round a Paramore tune, she didn't feel the need to learn anything else and just stopped! There's probably some tutorial stuff on line that could give you a good starting point, or maybe take a look at the early grades in the Rockschool books or similar. Good luck with it!

[quote name='ras52' timestamp='1325534895' post='1484161'] A question for the Warwick multi-stand owners: are they designed for solid-bodied instruments, or will they hold acoustic instruments? I'd like something to hold my home noodling arsenal which includes a classical and an acoustic g**t*r. Thanks! [/quote] Don't know how different the Warwick's are to the Stagg - the Stagg will take acoustic instruments, but they'll take up two spaces. You just lift out one of the foam dividers from the bottom of the stand and a wider bodied instrument will sit right in there.

Ooh, this talk of double rigs does set the GAS off! I think I'm ok for bass stuff though - if anything, I'd just like to re-aquire the stuff I sold to pay the bills last year, I miss my T-40! Most of my GAS is guitar-based now - need a nice guitar amp (possibly got some vintage valvey goodness coming my way!) and some new pickups for my Ibby Artist, and a few pedals to fill out the six string setup. Also really fancy giving my Epi LP Special a paint job and a few mods, and turning it into a P90 monster! I think the impending birth of my son is going to prevent any serious gear spending!

If you can find a MIDI file of the whole song, and you or someone in your band is suitably tech-savvy, it'd be pretty straightforward to knock one up yourself, and probably easier to cone by than a track of just the keys part. Having said that, crez is right, I wouldn't say it was essential and you could get by fine without it - seems a lot of trouble and extra setting up if you're only using it for that one song!