Jack

It's not an upgrade as such, just been fancying a wedge rather than the traditional cab Barefaced, they are listed for sale. Thanks for all the help so far. I just keep going around and around between: QSC K12.2 - cheapest, lightest, great dsp, flexibility to plug straight in, probably the weakest-sounding RCF 732 - just an xlr in, same size as the QSC but probably beefier for the loud band RCF 735 - too big and too heavy but with the other two I worry about being loud enough for no PA support, not so with this! I think I'm heading for the 732 as it seems the best compromise...

Hmmmm, you're all providing a great deal of useful information and generally being nice but it's not helping me narrow it down! 😁

Thanks! I'm not overly fussed about the QSC's dsp (although the possibility to plug direct in is cool) and there's a free bag with the QSC these days so the handles aren't a massive deal either. In terms of sound or volume is the RCF 735 worth £100 more?

So I'm after a wedge. K12.2 or one of the RCF models? Ids for a loudish band (5 piece pub rock) with pa support often but not always, in this band I normally use one barefaced fr800.

Yup, wifi router is a must. I repurposed a Mikrotik hap mini. Mixer is buried beside the drum kit with a media player, when the set starts the drummer turns the music down and when the set finishes he rolls the music back up.

Thanks, Muppet! I'd love the IRs if you're able to share? I've never used an IR before..... Someone suggested a while back that we tag any patches that we upload to Tonecloud, something like put 'BC - ' before the patch name, did anyone ever do this? Lastly, I'm struggling to properly do 'Closer' by NIN, can't get the autowah right, but that's probably because there isn't a proper autowah and I know nothing about modulation. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

Considering the Zoom B3 can be had for £80 and the B3n for more like £100 they would be a great way to dip your toe in to something more serious. IME every multi-effect has the same problem: they're hard to edit quickly. Not so with those two Zoom units, they sound great too. Or, you know, Helix.

I'm going to torpedo my own argument here, but I use (and like) the PJB headphones. Admittedly I'm not the best judge as an ear problem means that headphones = vertigo for me but when necessary they do work well. See, if this product was £70 then that would make a lot more sense. I'm sure that some people will appreciate the battery, but if you really are 'on the go' (with a bass?) then does one really care about the final word in sound quality? Indeed I am truly spoiled by the Soundcraft Notepad 5, but it has the hi-z input, 2-band eq, usb soundcard functionality and great headphone output, in fact everything aside from the battery, all for £80. And it's, like, a mixer so when you're not using headphones you can mix things. I don't know why I'm so down on the PJB*, Mrs Jack constantly tells me that I don't need so many watches as "they all tell the time the same anyway" so I do get the PJB. I'm just not going to be getting one. * Yes I do, I have the worst man-flu known to science and I may actually be about to die of misery.

For listening to music I'm sure plenty will 'hear' the difference and happily spend the cash, as has been alluded to, the hifi world of golden ears and one-way cables has plenty of ways to separate cash from audiophiles. But it looks like PJB is specifically marketing this towards bassists and guitarists. I honestly can't see any way that this is meaningfully better (and a few ways in which it's a lot worse) for that purpose than a small mixer for less than half of the price.

6 years now. 6 years with the name Dirt Monkey. Can't pretend I don't feel like an absolute divot any time someone asks what we're called. The other band is called The White Line, which is an Oasis reference and fits the mod/indie vibe pretty well so I can't complain about that one. I maintain a list of names I like, half of them are sci-fi or fantasy references which I'll never use as they'd have to be for a metal band. The other half come from my day job, which is as a youth worker and science communicator. When talking about age gaps in relationships, a 16 year old woman said to her friend (who had said she'd consider a much older man) "Well that's fine for you Bethany if you have that daddy kink but I don't". Next band is definitely being called Daddy Kink.

I think as PA systems at all levels get better by the moment, MOST solutions for bass are loud enough for MOST bands these days. Half the posts in any amp thread these days are people gigging with a 300-500W head and a small cab like a 1x12". Big rigs are still incomparably cool but they're not necessary for a most any more. On that basis I think it's fair to say (regardless of whether the RCF or Barefaced is louder) it really doesn't matter, they're both incredibly loud. I think you're spot on with the costs too. A lot of people tell me that I'm mental for spending £1300 on a Helix. Fair enough, but that's pretty much what an SVT head costs these days. They can also balk at the £1100 or so for the FR800, but that's what the heritage 8x10" costs too. Both sound great and both are loud enough. Versatility, size and weight go the Helix/FR800. Absolute volume, coolness, and a slightly better price go to the Ampeg. Whether you're an FRFR convert or not it's hard to make the cost argument for either side.

There's a primate in Ringworld that becomes a protector. Long story. Anyways, he's a small monkey and he's called Hanuman. Between your name, your monkey avatar and the assumption that you were called Dan it seemed to fit.

If you want lighter, smaller, but similar sounding to your S12T why not get the Super Compact? Smaller, lighter and cheaper than the PJB and it's a good bet you'll like it seeing as you like the S12T.

All of the ones that are in installs will be switched on and off on the wall all the time.

Ah sorry, with this being the stomp thread I just assumed. The OD pedals are great, I like the klon and the darkglass a lot, but I'm really into using the guitar amps as overdrive pedals atm.

Bass gear is like women, out of your league is where you WANT to be. Is your name a Ringworld reference?

Can I recommend a crossover at 500Hz, studio compressor for the lows, overdriven peavey 5150 for the highs. Put the whole thing on one footswitch.

There's a common design lineage and family resemblence between SWR, Eden, Acoustic (although, not the new ones), Demeter and Thunderfunk. Now they don't all sound the same by a long shot but if you like the Eden you may find one of the others is also to your taste. Facts end, opinions begin. The Thunderfunk is the best amp I've ever used. I will own another one day.... Please buy the 750 in the classifieds now and save me from it.

Honestly, you're looking at an outboard widget. Equaliser pedal, preamp that kind of thing. I know you said you're curious how it works and so for that I'd recommend one of the diy kits and guides online. Much easier to start from scratch than modify a product. Try something like this as a start.

When I listen to a recording of a tube amp it sounds great played back through my class D hifi speakers. This confuses me.

Total pet peeve of mine, but no it can't, because there's no input on the back. I saw the aux input and thought 'finally!' but it's for an mp3 player or something, not for a bass.

If you have a PJB cab already then it'd probably sound fine, better than most bass or guitar cabs anyway. If you're looking to buy though then I think you could do better for the money. What's a PJB cab new? £400 or so? Some very good powered pa cabs around for that or not much more.

That's such a good deal. My mic is already better than my voice so there's no reason to upgrade. But. Must. Resist. Bargain.

6 ohms.

It's mitigated by the facts the GK amps are themselves inherently reliable so they don't break often and the nature of their construction means that they can often be worked on by independent techs when they do.