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[quote name='icastle' timestamp='1364518096' post='2027735'] I always thought it was the keyboard player (something Tork?) or is this another one of those things that I should have known... but didn't? [/quote] Peter Tork was offically the bassist but all the earlier material was LA session players.

[quote name='Count Bassy' timestamp='1364525026' post='2027787'] Actually, to be fair to you and the others that replied to this, I don't have a problem if anyone wants to copy the original exactly, I just get annoyed that some people think you have to do it that way for it to have any value, and I was (over) reacting to that. It just seem seems that slavish copying of an 'original' is OK, writing your own original is OK, but anywhere between is somehow looked down upon. My current band do Hey Joe in a Hendrixy style, Aint no love & Day tripper in a Whitesnake style, Icecream man in a Van Halen style (but a bit swingier). The point being that these are all covers themselves. Did that stop these people doing versions of them. No, and the world is a richer place for it. Oh yes, another reason play in a covers band is that I work full time and don't have time write material. And if I did have the time I still wouldn't have the talent! [/quote] We are in agreement.

[quote name='Vinny' timestamp='1364521133' post='2027775'] Had to fix this, sorry! (I really am!) [/quote] True, we've tried it on kazoo and it's very popular.

[quote name='merello' timestamp='1364508687' post='2027593'] Cheers ET! [/quote] You're welcome - although we'd had it once in this thread already - but it's that good I don't mind how many times we have it.

[quote name='merello' timestamp='1364504454' post='2027524'] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFgFFNXahcg [/quote] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFgFFNXahcg

[quote name='Count Bassy' timestamp='1364327536' post='2024992'] ... we don't slavishly copy an original note for note. What would be the point in that? [/quote] 1 It sounds great. 2 The audience like it. 3 You learn from practicing to get it exactly correct. 4 You enjoy the freedom to copy whenever and whatever you want without taking notice of anyone calling you a slave. 5 etc. Play what you want, play what works for the song, don't be a slave to supposed originality.

Nice sunburst on that.

[quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1364496562' post='2027364'] He believes we were brought to this earth billions of years ago by the leader of The Galactic Confederacy, so I'd dispute you there. [/quote] Except that bit. It was really the Galactic Union.

[quote name='peteb' timestamp='1364495933' post='2027350'] Billy Sheehan talking about writing original material, playing in a covers band and becoming a better bass player (first 3 minutes of the video) - very relevant to this thread: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yglAuOceEPo[/media] As ever. Billy is bang on the money... [/quote] Spot on. All of it.

[quote name='EBS_freak' timestamp='1364480069' post='2027046'] (Gretsch G5422TDCG) [/quote] [quote name='Musicman20' timestamp='1364483849' post='2027113'] Don't tempt me! There is a guitar shop right near my work with a load of Gretsch guitars. I ABSOLUTELY love how they look. I have no idea how good the budget Gretsch guitars are..but if they sound/feel have as good as they look, I'd be happy. [/quote] Friend of mine had a black one of those. It was very nice but he had constant trouble with the floating bridge and so with intonation. I believe the fix is usually double sided tape but instead he sold it.

[quote name='LukeFRC' timestamp='1364426662' post='2026497'] ... Maybe we had the fortune of the government (forestry commission) running much of our forests. [/quote] I think we chopped down most of our forests some centuries before there was a forestry commission.

[quote name='icastle' timestamp='1364346911' post='2025352'] Blimey The CIA must have really p*ss*d you off... [/quote]

[quote name='Coilte' timestamp='1364398942' post='2025949'] Sorry, but I disagree here. Finger strengthening gadgets, are not necessary IMO. A minimal amount of strength is required to fret a string. This strength is in us all from a very young age. Stamina and dexterity are what's required and these are completely different from strength. [/quote] I agree, no need for finger strengthening gadgets, that's just another RSI waiting to happen. If you need to strengthen fingers then play bass, that's the practice that's needed not some other irrelevant practice.

[quote name='icastle' timestamp='1364345709' post='2025339'] Actually, we got hacked once last year. The CIA were hacked on three reported occasions. [/quote] CIA needs to get the BC admins on board.

[quote name='xilddx' timestamp='1364342942' post='2025308'] Not everyone is a musician, and let's face it, unless we are content and believe we will never be able to fully express ourselves on our instruments, we are frustrated as musicians. We can't float the boat quickly enough, or at all. Not every note satisfies. We wish the beautiful mistake was deliberate, or the deliberate was a beautiful mistake, depending on your personal aesthetic, approach to learning, and confidence. We mistake passion for ability, ability for passion, wondering if people will dance to our new grooves, needing affirmation of some sort. You are probably a frustrated musician, but what is it that stops you accepting that the way you approach life and music is what you are? And stops you accepting and hearing your unique voice for what it is? Preventing you from developing your own truth as a musician and as a musical person. What makes you doubt your capacity to delight yourself, and touch other people? [/quote] Nige, perhaps a lot of this does apply to some people here but I'm just a guy who plays a bit of bass in occasionally gigging bands. I'm not frustrated, I dont expect to express myself fully, I don't have a unique voice or expect to, yet I do sometimes delight myself and I do sometimes touch other people or at least make them dance. But I don't and can't take it so seriously.

I'm shocked to hear that BC is not as secure as the CIA.

Good luck with that, nice result.

And even root/five can be played virtuously or viciously.

[quote name='Lord Sausage' timestamp='1364338764' post='2025247'] I'd just like to say there is much more to music than groove as well as virtuosity. I'd also like to say there is a lot of virtuosity in Mozart's and Stravinsky's music which has lots of Musical Beauty. [/quote] Yes. Nothing wrong with virtuosity as long as there's still the music too.

[quote name='bertbass' timestamp='1364337429' post='2025223'] It's because of the hand that you lead with when doing a roll round the drums. Leading with the left hand on a right handed kit means that you can't follow onto the next drum. I know that 'cause my drummer told me, about the only intelligent thing he's ever said though. [/quote] ... and that's why Ringo sounds like Ringo ... yes?

Jimi Hendrix:

The guy from Doves.

Jimmy Haslip:

[quote name='Davetheglitz' timestamp='1364335878' post='2025177'] I'm not aware of any upside down bass players. Are there any? [/quote] Bloke from Bay City Rollers;