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That looks to me like bridge or neck slightly misaligned. You could loosen the neck screws and see if there a little play in the neck socket. Then tighten it up again with slightly better alignment - it only takes a small amount of movement.

[quote name='BetaFunk' timestamp='1360536795' post='1972101'] Exactly the reaction i expected. Well done for not letting me down. [/quote] Well, it may be a let down for you, but it's not a reaction, it's a revelation of the inconsistency and the incoherence of your claims.

[quote name='lowdowner' timestamp='1360533069' post='1972020'] considering that this is a bass players site, I find this discussion almost surreal. In the book 'bass masters - paul mccartney' by tony bacon and gareth morgan (a bit of a 'must read' the authors talk a lot about their influence. Particularly that they tended to listen to US bass players and music and imported those influences into the UK, often adding their own twist. Good examples would be Joe Mauldin (Buddy Holly) and Elvis's bass player Bill Black. Paul McCartney also listened a lot to James Jamerson - who Mccartney said was his hero. He would have the motown records sent over to listen to before they were released... The first time motown riffs were heard, were through the beatles music in the UK. To name just a few... [/quote] What is the surreal part?

[quote name='BetaFunk' timestamp='1360532679' post='1972012'] Absolutely. As someone who saw Beatlemania (and saw the Fab Four in the flesh) unfold upon the world i do admit that although i bought all the LPs i was never a real fan and at the time they were never thought of as they are now. They have become a group that you can't seem to criticise. You could have done this in the 60s and wouldn't have got into much of an argument about it. It would just have been your opinion. You'll soon be shouted down if you have the cheek to criticise nowadays. That's what i find amazing and how and what they have become. [/quote] The Beatles are constantly criticised, you're doing it yourself.

[quote name='Bassman Sam' timestamp='1360531402' post='1971986'] ... I can't see things changing in the near future. [/quote] ... but the future lasts a long time.

[quote name='lettsguitars' timestamp='1360529631' post='1971942'] ... Classical music gets more and more appealing to me .... If it has anything to do with current 'trends' I just aint interested. [/quote] But surely that appealing classical music had something to do with a current trend sometime in the past?

[quote name='Lowender' timestamp='1360510549' post='1971431'] ... I don't see Victor as an innovator. He's also hardly known to the general public ... [/quote] Almost everyone you mentioned is 'hardly known to the general public'.

[quote name='coachcbg' timestamp='1360518857' post='1971628'] Well, it's all come from somewhere! [/quote] Yes, new and old at the same time.

[quote name='coachcbg' timestamp='1360518154' post='1971610'] ... Neither me nor the guitarist remotely had Led Zep in mind ... [/quote] Perhaps a bit like Led Zeppelin didn't have Willie Dixon and others in mind.

[quote name='The Admiral' timestamp='1360510592' post='1971434'] .....because I'm finding that I just keep pricking up my ears at the stuff they have 'borrowed', in many cases I'm sure, unconsciously. [/quote] So, don't read the great myths of the ancient world if you want to carry on liking Hollywood films.

[quote name='heminder' timestamp='1360514984' post='1971530'] All cultural works are derivative. [/quote] ... and sound 'new' when the listener doesn't know the derivation.

[quote name='Stan_da_man' timestamp='1360516635' post='1971576'] Simple solution - don't listen to [b]rock[/b] music. [/quote] Yes.

I just listen to music, I don't really think about whether it's new or old. Often it's new to me even if it's old in some other sense. For example, I've been listening to a lot of Ethiopian stuff which I guess was recorded in the 70s and since, but it's all new to me.

I play what suits the band and its music. I'm not at all 'at one' with my instrument and don't have a 'signature' sound, although I usually manage to sound like me whether I want to or not. I'm not looking to 'nail a tone' and rarely play with the EQ; I'm much more likely to change where and how I hit the strings with my right hand.

There's probably a test for 'this bass kills' as well.

[quote name='cytania' timestamp='1360487593' post='1970990'] ... Has anyone ever accurately weighed a new bass when they bought it to test out the notion that the cell structure of the wood loses moisture over the years ... [/quote] I hope not. Quarantine would be necessary in order to rule out other causes of loss of weight (such as wearing away of the poly or chips and dinks) and causes of increase in weight (such as collection of gunk in the fingerboard and frets).

[quote name='redstriper' timestamp='1360443840' post='1970663'] Can you name them please, I'd really like to check them out. Thanks, Steve. [/quote] Here's a few; Percy Jones Boz Burrell Rick Danko Colin Moulding

[quote name='BetaFunk' timestamp='1360434428' post='1970454'] No not deliberately. This has been a fun topic. It shows how passionate about music we all feel and we're never always going to agree. The Mozart thing was just thrown in because he really was a genius. I don't think anyone can compare with his genius and the influence he had on music. [/quote] Mozart may well have been a genius and it may well be the case that no one can compare with his genius and he may well also have had a massive influence on the development of music. However, his audience has been tiny compared to the audience of The Beatles.

[quote name='slobluesine' timestamp='1360433558' post='1970423'] yeah, they all seem so guilty about something, it's only rock n roll folks [/quote] It's not only rock 'n' roll, it's life (and death).

[quote name='Bilbo' timestamp='1360433589' post='1970425'] Beatles tunes and jazz musicians have resulted in some shockingly bad jazz A lot of Beatles tunes on jazz albums are commercial decisions made by misguided producers. I don't want to generalise but (will) most examples of jazz plus Beatles tunes are less than the sum of their parts. [/quote] I've no dispute with that.

None of these Youtubes proves anything of course but I'm just enjoying it - so Penny Lane in the style of Bach: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8CJpGuURPY

[quote name='BetaFunk' timestamp='1360430431' post='1970341'] If i'd have heard Ornette Coleman or Albert Ayler playing a Beatles medley in the 1960s i might agree with you. They changed Pop music but certainly didn't change Jazz, Electronic or Classical music. [/quote] [quote name='BetaFunk' timestamp='1360431409' post='1970360'] I could list a thousand Beatles songs recorded by Jazz artists. Most of these were simply musicians recording pop songs of the day. Something Jazz musicians had done long before even Be Bop and putting their slant on it. Jazz musicians recording Beatles songs didn't change music. It may have shifted a few more LPs that''s all. [/quote] It may well have shifted a few more LPs, I wouldn't dispute that at all, but your claim has changed from the first post quoted above to the second post quoted above.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BGvfjayoTA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vRI2jlXkHI

[quote name='BetaFunk' timestamp='1360430431' post='1970341'] If i'd have heard Ornette Coleman or Albert Ayler playing a Beatles medley in the 1960s i might agree with you. They changed Pop music but certainly didn't change Jazz, Electronic or Classical music. [/quote] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KvgVQgZsrY