EssentialTension

I had Obligatos on mine. The only problem was the E string wouldn't fit through the tuning key. So I replaced the tuning keys with Hipshots (HB6Y I think).

[quote name='skej21' timestamp='1339922158' post='1696197'] Yet you still read the thread and contribute despite your disagreement. If you don't enjoy these type of threads, don't read them. It really is that simple. [/quote] This is nonsense. People are at liberty to contribute disagreement as much as agreement and they can't do either without reading the thread (or at least a proportion of it). It really is that simple. [quote name='skej21' timestamp='1339922158' post='1696197'] Maybe stop taking everything literally and lighten up a bit? [/quote] Well, given that you earlier said... [quote name='skej21' timestamp='1339879113' post='1695906'] Except its a 'worst bass players' thread, so his songwriting ability is irrelevant... He's a crap bassist. End of. [/quote] ... that seems to be the pot calling the kettle black. Maybe you should take your own advice.

[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1339921734' post='1696192'] I liked the fact you don't have to play a open E and found most of the time with a 4 string my default hand position is the bottom 5 frets whereas with a 5 string it's first finger on the 5th fret. [/quote] That's what I really didn't like - well, one of the things.

I had a G&L L2500 for about a year. 1 Beautiful bass with a wide range of tones but my experience was: 2 String spacing was too narrow. 3 I rarely used the B string - just on the odd occasion that I could make use of a low Eb, D, Db, C or B, which really was rarely and was never essential. 4 The B string didn't have the solidity of tone of the E string. 5 I did not need five strings and the fifth string was in my way so .... 6 I traded it for a fretless four string Fender Jazz.

[quote name='skankdelvar' timestamp='1339783505' post='1694411'] In defence of this thread, the OP was posting tongue in cheek. [/quote] How could you tell? [quote name='skankdelvar' timestamp='1339783505' post='1694411'] And if the concept of 'worst' is so damnably offensive to so many of our brethren, why did they read it rather than simply pass by on the other side? [/quote] Neither 'offensive' nor 'damnably' so, in my view, but no one could possibly know either way without reading the thread. Passing by on the other side would leave the non-reader without an opportunity for an informed opinion. [quote name='skankdelvar' timestamp='1339783505' post='1694411'] In any event, there are very few 'new' topics on this forum and 'worst / best' is always guaranteed to drive a bit of page traffic. [/quote] I agree.

[quote name='Conan' timestamp='1339840746' post='1695144'] Yet you just can't stop yourself posting in it! [/quote] I could have but I didn't - is that a problem for you?

Hello ..........

[quote name='skydog2710' timestamp='1339768623' post='1694054'] Bit of a pointless thread. What's next ... "Who's your least favourite average/mediocre bass player"? [/quote] ... to be followed by 'what's your most disliked colour?' - actually that would make more sense than this.

[quote name='BassTractor' timestamp='1339757729' post='1693778'] Hm. That thread is from 2010 BC. I'm confirmed in having to wonder where all of this is coming from and going to, and why. I mentioned the name of a great bassist. You actively chose to respond in a positive way. Thus you contributed to the pointless thread, or affirmed my pointless post. I'm here to learn and to enjoy. I hope to contribute so other people enjoy, and when I grow up, I hope to contribute so other people can learn. Right now I feel the surveillance is getting slightly in the way, so my direct question to you is: Do you have specific reasons for writing the way you do in this thread, or is this just a coincidence and not really wished for, or do I misinterpret? [/quote] I thought I was merely having a conversation but I'll stop if it's disturbing you.

[quote name='charic' timestamp='1339746339' post='1693534'] Just a thought: String vibrates over a magnetic which sends a signal... Now here's were I just had a rather major thought, the wood the pickup is housed in vibrates when you play aswell, when this happens both the string and the pickup are moving so you get a different sound coming out. Different woods would vibrate in different ways/amounts surely. /UtterBollocks? [/quote] Let's assume, for a moment, that what you say about vibrations is correct. It may not be correct or, even if it is correct, the influence might be extremely small or even irrelevant compared to a host of other factors but nonetheless, we'll assume it is correct and of more than minimal relevance. It still doesn't follow that certain species of wood are so-called 'tonewoods' and other species of wood are not so-called 'tonewoods'. Your term 'different woods' will apply to different pieces of wood of the same species just as it might apply to different species. It's also extremely odd that looking like a coffee table and being a great so-called 'tonewood' so often appear to be in correlation.

[quote name='LukeFRC' timestamp='1339745657' post='1693525'] So why do Mr sadowskys fingers basses cost a lot and my bits bolted together would not? [/quote] Because our wallets are bigger than our ears.

[quote name='LukeFRC' timestamp='1339744276' post='1693504'] What does make an awesome bass? [/quote] Your fingers.

[quote name='BassTractor' timestamp='1339718599' post='1693411'] In fact, my mentioning Ray Shulman resulted in you responding, and maybe someone else then gives him a listen. [/quote] [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/106388-ray-shulman-of-gentle-giant"]http://basschat.co.uk/topic/106388-ray-shulman-of-gentle-giant[/url]

[size=3][quote] First of all (and speaking from a steel string guitar perspective), let's discard the notion that some species of wood make good instruments and that others don't. The concept of tonewood is a hoax. Of the few things that we can do to a guitar and still call it a guitar, changing the wood it is made of will have the least impact upon the quality of the sound that it produces. The tonal difference between a mahogany guitar and a rosewood guitar is exactly the same as the difference between two mahogany guitars or two rosewood guitars. Can you tell what a guitar is made of while listening to an unfamiliar recording? No one I know claims they can. No one at the blind listening sessions I've attended could reliably distinguish between mahogany and rosewood guitars, or maple and koa guitars for that matter.[/quote][/size] [url="http://www.guitarnation.com/articles/calkin.htm"]http://www.guitarnat...cles/calkin.htm[/url] ... also: [url="http://www.cycfi.com/2009/10/tuning-the-wood-on-tonewoods-and-other-myths/"]http://www.cycfi.com...nd-other-myths/[/url]

[quote name='xgsjx' timestamp='1339707756' post='1693262'] Would one of these sound plasticy? [/quote] I can see through that easily.

[quote name='lojo' timestamp='1339699316' post='1693021'] I think we should have a bassist of the month thread, ... [/quote] Much better idea.

I think that's a bad date for me.

[quote name='BassTractor' timestamp='1339633756' post='1691895'] Lemme guess anyway: Cor Dekker (Ekseption) - Dutch "classical" prog - often very tacky arrangements of classical themes. Sometimes genius. Bert Ruiter (Focus) - Dutch prog Ron van Eck (Supersister) - Dutch prog akin to Canterbury scene Rinus Gerritsen (Golden Earring) - "Radar Love"! Jannick Top - from French band Magma Bakithi Kumalo - played on Paul Simon's "Graceland" Muzz Skillings - in Living Colour before Doug Wimbish Georg Riedel - a Swede who did a lot of different jazz, often rather soft or quite modern Red Mitchell - an American jazz player. Probably not that known, but very musical I think, and he had an impact on me. [/quote] Close but no cigar - I know these: Jack Bruce Chris Squire Ray Shulman Jaco Pastorius Stanley Clarke JJ Burnel Bakithi Kumalo Georg Riedel Red Mitchell Ron Carter Charlie Mingus I've heard these names but never knowingly heard or listened to them: John Patitucci Les Claypool These are the ten I didn't/don't know: Jannick Top (I didn't know the name but I must have seen him play with Magma in 1973/4) Jeffrey Hammond (I've since recognised the name, I've seen him more than once with Jethro Tull back in 1970s.) Cor Dekker Bert Ruiter Ron van Eck Rinus Gerritsen John Glascock Muzz Skillings Sean Malone Doug Wimbish My point really was I don't see the point of a load of bassists all listing a load of names, that they either like or don't like - or heard of or not heard of, for that matter.

[quote name='BassTractor' timestamp='1339628196' post='1691857'] Ray Shulman (Gentle Giant) - he's mentioned far too little, I feel [/quote] I agree Ray Shulman is/was a fantastic bassist.

[quote name='BassTractor' timestamp='1339628196' post='1691857'] Me. (Yes, I did see the winkey.) As a keyboards guy, I know zilch about bass players, yet could easily name at least two dozen bass players who've meant a lot for my love for the bass, for example: Cor Dekker (Ekseption) Bert Ruiter (Focus) Ron van Eck (Supersister) Rinus Gerritsen (Golden Earring) Jack Bruce Chris Squire Ray Shulman (Gentle Giant) - he's mentioned far too little, I feel Jannick Top Jeffrey Hammond John Glascock Jaco Pastorius Stanley Clarke JJ Burnel Bakithi Kumalo John Patitucci Muzz Skillings Doug Wimbish Sean Malone Les Claypool Georg Riedel Red Mitchell Ron Carter Charlie Mingus Is that 10 yet? Oooh ... [/quote] There are ten there that I've no idea who they are.

[quote name='Dave Vader' timestamp='1339585166' post='1690877'] That one who did that dum dum dum thing on that old record, you know the one... The chap who did that cool thing on that disco record The dude who did that thing with jams brown that was so very cool The bloke from that hip-hop sample that goes dang, dum dum, doooommm bip bip The mwaaaahhhhh slidy compressy bloke from the 80s That slightly overdriven 70s ampegged up chap with the beard and the heavy as **** tone Solid-dependable 90s indie bassist guy That chap with the big standy-uppy bass thing who done the nice jazzy thing with Miles and Coltrane Super fast fingered heavy metal blokey with his foot on the monitor And me I don't tend to read liner notes or know the names of the band members, does it show? [/quote] You forgot the cat in the hat.

Fantastic.