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[quote name='peteb' timestamp='1332202242' post='1584906'] [indent=1]I don't think that plagiarism necessarily stops a band from being authentic - it's happened throughout the ages in all musical traditions![/indent] [/quote] It certainly did happen through the ages and still does and indeed should, although I think 'plagiarism' is sometimes too strong a word for it. Originality, and authenticity in that sense, is extremely rare.

[quote name='dlloyd' timestamp='1332201677' post='1584896'] There was a lot of that though... does plagiarism make you inauthentic? [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTsvs-pAGDc[/media] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auDv6cf2PBM[/media] [/quote] No, I don't think it necessarily does make someone inauthentic but it ought to form part of the debate.

[quote name='peteb' timestamp='1332200273' post='1584870'] Actually, you could say that Led Zep were authentically following in the tradition of their blues forebearers by stealing earlier songs and making them their own! I mean, who wrote 'Dust My Broom', Elmore James or Robert Johnson?? Answer, neither - Johnson adapted the song from some earlier bluesman (and who's to say that that guy didn't get it from someone else) and adapted it just as Elmore James adapted RJ's version! This has always happened throughout the history of music..... [/quote] Yes, I'd say that's right, though Plant and Page did have to pay Willie Dixon in the end.

[quote name='chardbass' timestamp='1332200980' post='1584882'] Thanks for that Pete- in the minority here but I thought it was great. His feel AND sound are incredible in the solo sections. Incredibly supportive. Is that his new lineup? I found the drummer's take refreshing- Poogie is a monster no doubt but it's good to hear him with different musos. Some of the previous posts are a bit embarrassing if I'm honest- just imagine if Jaco was around today and a member on here. He wouldn't (and doesn't usually) stand a f***ing chance. [/quote] What is it you're embarrassed about?

Barry Matthews, [i]Fender Bass for Britain[/i]:

Led Zeppelin, Whole Lotta Love (credited Robert Plant, Jimmy Page) [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mln0RciE2o0[/media]

As has already been pointed out, 'authenticity' is going to be a contested concept. If one were considering the 'authenticity' of Led Zeppelin, it might be worth examining the sequence: Muddy Waters, You Need Love (credited: Willie Dixon) [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM8_HuQ0b34[/media] The Small Faces, You Need Loving (credited: Ronnie Lane, Steve Marriot) [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpnF62TNYoM[/media]

[quote name='jacko' timestamp='1332196764' post='1584810'] Actually Phil Lesh's heavily alembicised guild. Source of some of the world's coolest music. [/quote] Yes, sorry, I mixed them up. Here's Casady's version:

Here you go: [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/133166-i-miss-my-66-slab-precision-so-much/page__p__1210198__hl__slab%20precision__fromsearch__1#entry1210198"]http://basschat.co.uk/topic/133166-i-miss-my-66-slab-precision-so-much/page__p__1210198__hl__slab%20precision__fromsearch__1#entry1210198[/url] ...and here: [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/113225-hens-teeth-1966-slab-bodied-precision-rears-its-head/page__hl__slab%20precision"]http://basschat.co.uk/topic/113225-hens-teeth-1966-slab-bodied-precision-rears-its-head/page__hl__slab%20precision[/url]

I think someone here was once in possession of one, maybe The Bass Doc. There have been threads before.

[quote name='Pete Academy' timestamp='1332191568' post='1584684'] Sorry mate, don't agree with the ,clankety clank,. Have you listened on headphones? [/quote] Yes, headphones, several times, I know you don't agree.

[quote name='Pete Academy' timestamp='1332191133' post='1584671'] To me, whenever Marcus plays anything, be it a bass line or solo, it always has a groove. [/quote] I agree the timekeeping was spot on.

[quote name='Pete Academy' timestamp='1332191001' post='1584668'] How would you describe soul? [/quote] I wouldnt describe it I'd listen out for it. But it can't go clankety clank with no spaces.

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1332189187' post='1584625'] Yeah, he's playing the wrong bass! [/quote] But is he at the wrong gig?

[quote name='Pete Academy' timestamp='1332188199' post='1584608'] As for Marcus having no soul? I don't think he's capable, whatever he plays. ... [/quote] He managed having no soul very successfully this time, that's how it sounds to me.

[quote name='BRANCINI' timestamp='1332187300' post='1584600'] This place is still going, Theres a price list to give you an idea of costs etc. They'll fit internal mics for you as well, or at least they used to. Mate of mine at the time used to play in those German Bier Kellars that caught on in the 70s, and as has been said they sure aint easy to mic up. For what its worth, he made a bloody good living playing Knees up Mother Brown and stuff like that. Made me wonder where I went wrong sometimes. [/quote] Thanks, but which place?

[quote name='JakeBrownBass' timestamp='1332176625' post='1584351'] ... There is no right or wrong answer, just opinion and beliefs. [/quote] Is that an opinion or a belief? Or are you claiming it as absolute truth?

[quote name='Bilbo' timestamp='1332175624' post='1584326'] I saw something on the tv the other day where Trevor Horn admitted noone from Frankie Goes To Hollywood played on Relax. NOOOO!! [/quote] So does that make it authentic Trevor Horn?

Thanks guys, that's all very useful.

[quote name='bengreen49' timestamp='1332116900' post='1583649'] smelly sunglasses? what manner of porn is this? [/quote] 3D aromaround

[quote name='redstriper' timestamp='1332115965' post='1583644'] Rotosound ? [/quote] Well spotted - La Bella GHS D'Addario Picato Thomastik Pyramid DR Newtone Rotosound

[quote name='Count Bassy' timestamp='1332115445' post='1583636'] From what's been said above Newtone also need to be on the list [/quote] OK - La Bella GHS D'Addario Picato Thomastik Pyramid DR Newtone

[quote name='waynepunkdude' timestamp='1332114622' post='1583629'] I've seen my dads porn, I dodged a bullet alright [/quote] Was it all on Super 8?

[quote name='waynepunkdude' timestamp='1332114492' post='1583626'] As someone born in the 80's thankfully not. [/quote] You were lucky.