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[quote name='bubinga5' timestamp='1327193011' post='1507770'] .. bet it sound very cool though [/quote] Here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gDhR1R3S0s

[quote name='bubinga5' timestamp='1327193011' post='1507770'] ... the line has to be drawn somewhere.. [/quote] True, and we're drawing it in different places.

[quote name='bubinga5' timestamp='1327191620' post='1507758'] sorry but there not jazz basses.. why would you think they were? [/quote] Because it is, why would you think it wasn't. It's the late Berry Oakley's Fender Jazz Bass. It's had the neck pickup moved between the bridge pickup and the bridge, it's had a Hagstrom Bisonic pickup added (with VT controls). Customised it may be , but it's a customised Jazz bass.

[quote name='LukeFRC' timestamp='1327190870' post='1507754'] some of the first did have VVT i thought... like the one in that picture [/quote] That prototype in the pic had VVT, although others too I believe.

[quote name='Linus27' timestamp='1327187347' post='1507719'] Ok but the original Jazz did not have a split Precision pickup so tonally it is not accurate to the original concept. If I went to a shop and asked for a Fender Jazz and got given that then I would be very annoyed. Yes it has the characteristics of the jazz but tonally and pickups make it a different beast. A bit like the difference between an analogue watch and a digital watch perhaps. Both watches, both with straps and round faces and both tell the time by different methods. Yes you can call it a Jazz but its not the original concept. [/quote] I'm not claiming that the Reggie Hamilton Jazz is the original concept, just that it's part of the family resemblance which are Jazz basses. Anyway, the 70s bridge pickup is in a slightly different place to the 60s bridge pickup. The so-called 'original' Jazz bass had VTVT controls and a dot rosewood fretboard, not VVT and maple. It also had felt string mutes and flatwound strings. And at least one of the 1959 prototypes had a soap bar pickup And it was called the Jazz bass because it copied the offset body design of the Jazzmaster.

[quote name='Linus27' timestamp='1327177996' post='1507576'] Is that not a PJ bass and a new breed of bass? If if its a copy of the original Fender Jazz then its a very bad one as it has the wrong pickup config and tone? [/quote] It's got the offset body, the 1.5" nut, and it also says Fender Jazz Bass on it. I'd say it's in the family. As for tone, Jazz basses don't have only one tone.

[quote name='Immo' timestamp='1327174800' post='1507521'] Fingerboard of every bass that on English-speaking sites is advertised to be 'rosewood' is described on Polish sites as 'palisander' as it is a Polish word for 'rosewood'. [/quote] German too, I think.

... and here's another Jazz bass:

Here's a Jazz bass:

I must be playing with the wrong guitarists because the four I've regularly played with in recent times are all using combos with two or four 10"s. Anyway, shouldn't this be in General Discussion and not Off Topic?

[quote name='TRBboy' timestamp='1327168457' post='1507398'] Not in a position to post a vid right now, but Deja vu has to be the best Beyonce bassline! When you see her live you realise that every single member of the band is an extremely talented musician. [/quote] Here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weFftGrtZ7w

Absolutely cracking.

I'd expect reasonable pics and a variety of them.

[quote name='LukeFRC' timestamp='1327153386' post='1507071'] Position of the pickups also quite important. [/quote] OK, I didn't make that explicit but yes. Although even Fender Jazzes don't all have two single coils in exactly the same positions. However, if I had the offset body, the 1.5" nut, and VVT, even if I had moved the pickup positions I'd still say it was in the family 'Jazz bass'.

Jazz basses are not all the same and haven't been for fifty years. 'Jazz bass' is a set of basses with certain family resemblances. The key resemblances are: 1 - The offset body shape 2 - A pair of single coil pickups 3 - 1.5" nut 4 - VVT (or maybe VTVT) controls For a bass to be a member of the Jazz bass family it needs at least one, and probably two, or possibly three, of those key characteristics but it doesn't need all of them.

[quote name='jonnybass' timestamp='1327135141' post='1506740'] My knowledge of maths and physics isnt the best but I always assumed scale length relates to the distance between two frets (notes, harmonic nodes,whatever you want to call the place where you put your fingers on the string) I would be surprised if the distance between fret at F# on the e string and G on the e string on a 34inch scale bass is the same as the nut to F fret distance on a 32inch scale bass, if its even different by a hundredth of an inch, it will lead to interesting tuning.... jonny [/quote] This has already been dealt with earlier in the thread. Turning the second fret into the nut would make it a 30.3" scale. In scale length terms it's just the same as putting a capo on the second fret of a 34" tuned to DGCA making the scale length 30.3" (more strictly it's 30.290551181") and the old fourteenth fret becomes the new octave 12th fret etc. The problems are not to do with scale length as long as the new nut is at the old second fret. It is problematic for other reasons.

[quote name='Musicman20' timestamp='1327010682' post='1505317'] Doesn't it state the cobalt is also in phone mobile batteries?! Seems we are all guilty. [/quote] In computers too I believe.

Like everyone else, I'm sure the Squier Jazz was definitely a much better buy. I'm not a big fan of sunburst either but you've got a classic bass design in a classic colour and it will make classic tones for you while keeping quite a lot of its value if and when you want to sell it on. Good luck.

[quote name='Spoombung' timestamp='1326700865' post='1500525'] Ugh, pure cheese. I don't get the James Taylor thing. Americans love that brand of mush. Makes for a very dull song, IMO [/quote] I like this cheese, very tasty.

I would have to say something and offer to pay for any repair.

[quote name='redstriper' timestamp='1326670794' post='1500407'] Which ones are your favourites Dave? Mine are GHS Precisions, also partial to DR High Beams and TIs for fretless, but if I could only have one it would be GHS. Still a lot I haven't tried, but I've stopped looking now (thankfully) Steve. [/quote] Hi Steve. Different on different basses. Precision bass has La Bella 760FS but I've used TIs there often too, Lakland Decade has Pyramid Golds at the moment but I also like GHS Precisions on that too, Takamine B10 has La Bella 760N, Michael Kelly acoustic has TIs. But that collection are my favoured ones.

[quote name='ras52' timestamp='1326660250' post='1500192'] +1, thanks redstriper. Actually it doesn't quite say it all... for instance, finding which flats suit you can get expensive. However quite a few BC-ers (myself) included have played that game, so nearly-new sets often pop up in the BC marketplace. [/quote] You're correct, I was exaggerating, and I should know because I've tried most types of flats at great expense.

[quote name='redstriper' timestamp='1326653853' post='1500028'] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE5R3rUoU58[/media] [/quote] That video says it all really.

[quote name='Will Law' timestamp='1326650947' post='1499969'] ... I'm after a '60s sound' to be quite broad so I'm thinking flatwounds would probably be better ... [/quote] The great majority of 1960s recordings are flatwounds - and usually on a P or a J, and sometimes with fingers but quite often with a pick.

[quote name='Johnston' timestamp='1326650615' post='1499958'] ... On a P well that's all they had when the Precision was designed ... [/quote] ... and when the Jazz was designed.