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[quote name='GeirMB' timestamp='1313684583' post='1344620'] I guess I will have to use some time to find what I like. Btw, did you ever use a bow with your B10 ? Thanks G [/quote] It doesn't really work with a bow due to the waist of the body not being cut away enough to play E or G strings without catching A or D string respectively.

[quote name='Beedster' timestamp='1322257566' post='1448795'] I've just sold all my acoustic basses to buy one of these so if anyone's selling their's, please let me know Chris [/quote] Good luck with that Chris, there can't be many of them around. I'm really enjoying mine although I haven't gigged it yet.

[quote name='dave_bass5' timestamp='1322252894' post='1448747'] This isnt the place to ask questions, this is the review section. [/quote] I meant to say that but by the time I'd found the review thread I'd forgotten.

[quote name='Pete Academy' timestamp='1322253020' post='1448748'] The girl in question regarding the OP has talented parents. She has learned to play two instruments at a good standard in the space of three months, with only minutes of practice per night. My mum is a talented artist. My brother and I are good at art. There has to be a genetic link. [/quote] No, there doesn't have to be a so-called genetic link. There are other explanations which are considerably more likely.

[quote name='Protium' timestamp='1322249100' post='1448689'] Where has the blue theme gone? [/quote] Good question.

[quote name='blackmn90' timestamp='1322243311' post='1448603'] were not allowed to criticise the moderators, were not worthy ..... [/quote] Of course we're not worthy, the question is whether our unworthiness was inherited or not.

[quote name='peteb' timestamp='1322242034' post='1448578'] I was going to click on the green 'like' arrow for this but can't due to being an admin and therefore buttonless! So have a 'like' on me! [/quote] Bilbo's post doesn't appear to have a green (or red) button at all.

This thread might interest you: [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/63093-squier-cv-jazz-vs-fender-amstdjazz/"]http://basschat.co.uk/topic/63093-squier-cv-jazz-vs-fender-amstdjazz/[/url]

[quote name='Len_derby' timestamp='1322239355' post='1448517'] No, the research suggests that belief in inherited talent comes about through diligent hard work and years of practise. [/quote] Seems like I haven't practiced enough yet.

[quote name='silddx' timestamp='1322237966' post='1448481'] So there we have it. [/quote] I wonder if a tendency to believe in inherited talent is itself inherited.

[quote name='silddx' timestamp='1322238668' post='1448503'] This is a composition, not a solo, and it is played with a bow on an acoustic instrument with a beautiful timbre. Show me a bass players who solos who can match Bach in terms of composition. If you like cello, check out Steven Isserlis playing Britten's No3 cello suite. It's extraordinary. [/quote] Yes, not a solo but unaccompanied. And +1 as they say on Isserlis and Britten.

[quote name='frostis' timestamp='1322237991' post='1448482'] Just listen to any solo by Alain Caron. That is real poetry in my opinion. [/quote] Well, I just listened to Alain Caron on Youtube and 'No thanks, I'll take Rostropovich playing Bach'.

[quote name='frostis' timestamp='1322237991' post='1448482'] This is played in the low register. Should we consider it ugly?: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR9lCa23kzo&feature=related[/media] [/quote] Lovely, but I don't feel that was the kind of bass solo that was being referred to, maybe I'm missing something.

I usually avoid bass solos - both playing them or listening to them. However, if, despite it all, a bass solo is necessary then it really ought to have some relationship to the groove of the song, as VW says, but I'd also expect it to have some relationship to the melody of the song.

[quote name='bridge' timestamp='1322234773' post='1448401'] Extender fitted and seems to work fine. Tuner slightly stiff, but hopefully its because its new (turned ok in slot before extender fitted). Just need to give it some welly next week at rehersals, before trusting it to a gig. fingers crossed it will be fine! no more detuning or changing guitar! [/quote] Slightly stiff is better than slightly loose.

[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1322222829' post='1448121'] That inate extra....?? best sumed up for me, like this. Gazza... for example.. Couldn't string two sentences together, pretty much, but was two or three moves ahead of his teammates. Football made sense and was easy for him whereas as others were journeymen by comparison...and generally in a field of sporting excellence as far as most other people who 'played' football were concerned. I mean, we can all kick a ball about..and some work very hard to make the most of their physical attributes..and then there is another level that very very few inhabit. Gazza is still regarded as the best British player of his generation..and there has been no one since, and that was 15 plus years ago...as yet...!! That is what I regard as that inate something extra. [/quote] You still haven't told us what this 'innate extra something' is. I remain unconvinced.

Very nice, but no dosh

[quote name='99ster' timestamp='1322180100' post='1447772'] Tim Buckley & Jeff Buckley... Bearing in mind that (by all accounts) Tim had no part in his son's upbringing - maybe a good example of inherited talent? [/quote] [quote] Wikipedia: Buckley was brought up around music. His mother was a classically trained pianist and cellist.[sup][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_buckley#cite_note-17"][18][/url][/sup] His stepfather introduced him to [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Led_Zeppelin"]Led Zeppelin[/url], [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_%28band%29"]Queen[/url], [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimi_Hendrix"]Jimi Hendrix[/url], [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Who"]The Who[/url], and [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_Floyd"]Pink Floyd[/url] at an early age.[sup][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_buckley#cite_note-TheArrivalof-18"][19][/url][/sup] Buckley grew up singing around the house and in [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmony"]harmony[/url] with his mother,[sup][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_buckley#cite_note-19"][20][/url][/sup] later noting that all his family sang.[sup][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_buckley#cite_note-20"][21][/url][/sup] Buckley began playing guitar at the age of five after discovering an acoustic guitar in his grandmother's closet.[/quote]

[quote name='skej21' timestamp='1322168137' post='1447586'] Perfect pitch is probably the most obvious example. We are all born with the ability to train our ears to recognise frequencies as different pitches (in the same way we are all born to recognise different light frequencies as colours), but we need an environment in which it is developed (i.e. through the encouragement of musical parents who recognise the skill and can develop the ear through training) and consistent practice, otherwise we lose the skill as we grow older and use it less regularly ... [/quote] There's some research that suggests that children from cultures that speak tone languages (e.g. China) have higher levels of perfect pitch than children from cultures that speak non-tone languages (e.g. English).

My seventeen year old son is enormously more musically talented than me (and even more so than his mother), but: (1) he's been constantly exposed to music from a wide range of genres since he was in the womb; (2) he's been having weekly guitar lessons for over ten years; (3) he's also had some piano lessons; (4) he's also had some drum lessons; (5) he's also had some singing lessons; (6) he's been playing in bands since he was twelve; (7) he's doing A Level Music (8) etc. However, his great-uncle played violin in the City of Birmingham Symphony Orchestra, so I guess it must definitely be hereditary.

[quote name='Pete Academy' timestamp='1322166367' post='1447552'] I recently posted a thread about talent...is it inherited? Earlier this evening I visited a couple (my ex-wife and her hubby) who are both talented musicians (sax and piano). Their 8-year-old daughter was eager to perform her skills for me on clarinet and piano. She played faultlessly. I asked her parents how long she had been playing. Apparently since September. I thought she might have put in around an hour a night to reach her standard of playing. No...5 to 10 mins a night. This has firmly convinced me that talent is definitely hereditary. Any similar stories? [/quote] Why would that convince you that talent was hereditary?

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1322129554' post='1446765'] Set up is an incredibly personal thing, so why should you expect a bass to be set up to your tastes? [/quote] I think this is dead right. Even if an instrument has been, in a sense, well set up there is no guarantee that it will be how you want it. As I said above, for me, they never have the right strings on so any set up is going to be changed by me anyway.

[quote name='neepheid' timestamp='1322088764' post='1446508'] Well, at time of writing there's a net two users who would rather click on a down arrow than have a conversation with you. Negative rep for expressing an opinion which is neither objectionable or anti-social. Way to go, whoever you are. [/quote] Yes, it's the anonymous negging of Pete's post that is anti-social and objectionable.

[quote name='bassist_lewis' timestamp='1322081530' post='1446390'] when I was about 16/17 a vowed never to play a Fender because everyone played a Fender. However, I'm changing my mind, as with the stratocaster, the sound of Fender Ps and Js has become a trademark of genres and players, even pick-ups are sometimes referred as 'jazz style' or 'precision style' by non-Fender manufacturers.There's no escape!!! So I was playing an American Deluxe Jazz V today and felt that it was a very nice instrument but that it hadn't been well set-up out of the box, the neck pick-up was too quiet and needed to be raised, the string heights were kind of radiused like you'd find on a double bass so the A stuck up and tripped my fingers over and the relief (or general string height) could have done with being a bit lower. Is this a common thing with new fenders, that it has an off-putting set-up? And how far can it be undone? I like a super-low action but then my Clover's fingerboard is almost flat thanks in advance [/quote] In my experience it's not Fenders any more than any other manufacturer that you're likely to find in a shop. They are never set up how I would want them. For a start they always have roundwound strings. The only time I bought a new bass that was already set up to my liking was direct from Lakland in Chicago and the set up survived the trans-Atlantic trip.

[quote name='Ou7shined' timestamp='1322071945' post='1446229'] Haha nice one. I think we know which way it will go though. (I also think most of us know that FPTP in this particular poll will leave the real majority feeling a bit had) In years to come we'll look back with fondness to the halcyon days of yore when we once had that cool little "like" button for a while.... which was recieved well enough, so much so that the forum pixies then added a "hate" button too... which sparked off a "debate".... so then we then had to have a poll... which in turn lead to more debate and private lobying... which ultimately ended up with us getting rid of the whole darned thing altogether. [/quote] I would be happy to have kept the 'like' system that we did have and initially I voted for it. It was only when it became apparent that some people understood this as a preference for any reputation system, which it was not, that I changed my vote to deactivate.