EssentialTension

[quote name='sk8' post='1012555' date='Nov 4 2010, 08:46 PM']with songs and a band i don't know without even a practice! Should be a laugh [/quote] A couple of weeks ago I went to a pub to see a band. I used to be in a different band with the guitarist. 'Hello', I said. 'Have you brought a bass,' he said, 'our bassist hasn't turned up.' Then he drove me home to collect my gear and we played two sets, including two songs I'd actually played before, and I got my £50. They got booked back there for January 30th.

[quote name='GT40Graham' post='1019769' date='Nov 11 2010, 10:03 AM']I like the bass line on Old Brown Shoe but it was played by Harrison on a Fender Bass VI I do believe and not McCartney.[/quote] For what it's worth, Ian MacDonald's book [i]Revolution in the Head[/i] claims it's McCartney on bass but with Harrison tracking the same line on guitar. But who knows? Harrison claims it was him on bass in an interview in Creem magazine in 87/88 but seems to agree to the double tracking with him playing both.

Here it is: [url="http://entertainment.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=7022&hdnJumpToLot=1&Lot_No=46029&x=31&y=6"]http://entertainment.ha.com/common/view_it...mp;x=31&y=6[/url]. Scroll down. Bill Black didn't actually play with the Bill Black Combo for the last couple of years of his life due to ill health - brain tumour, I think. So the Jazz bass could well not be his.

[quote name='99ster' post='1019591' date='Nov 11 2010, 01:22 AM']And the [url="http://"%20<a%20href="http://entertainment.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=7022&Lot_No=46029""%20target="_blank">http://entertainment.ha.com/common/view_it..._No=46029"</a>"]black & white photo here[/url] actually shows a stack-knob Jazz bass...[/quote] Bad link.

And it says 'Transparent orange-brown triple hand-lacquered and polished varnish finish' but it definitely looked black to me.

[quote name='Telebass' post='1019385' date='Nov 10 2010, 09:36 PM']Although Joe Osborne does it all wrong for me, in terms of instrument/strings/technique (Jazz Bass/flats/pick), he's probably the guy I'd name as top personal influence.[/quote] I always feel he's one of those session guys who manages to be in some way both simple and yet very creative at the same time.

[quote name='Bilbo' post='1018902' date='Nov 10 2010, 03:46 PM']That is a good cd but look for a Wynton Kelly cd called Blues On Purpose. It was recorded around the same time as the Smokin' lp and is really strong. PC does a 10 chorus solo (12-bar blues) that just lifts and lifts and has the audience really whippedu up and he takes it further that any other solo I have heard him play (and I have heard hundreds and hundreds)[/quote] Looking for it now. Your posts often seem to cost me money Bilbo. Worth it though.

Clarky sold me some strings, perfect service as always.

[quote name='Jean-Luc Pickguard' post='1017567' date='Nov 9 2010, 02:17 PM']mmmm [/quote] Nice.

[quote name='dave_bass5' post='1018936' date='Nov 10 2010, 04:17 PM']Never trust a man in a suit :-)[/quote] That's me done then.

Just been listening to Wynton Kelly Trio with Wes Montgomery [i]Smokin' at the Half Note[/i]. Wes Montgomery – guitar Wynton Kelly – piano Paul Chambers – bass Jimmy Cobb – drums

[quote name='dave_bass5' post='1018472' date='Nov 10 2010, 10:17 AM'] If my drummer even attempted to do a solo i would just throw my bass at him, in bar one.[/quote] We don't allow it any more. We only ever allowed so that we got a cigarette break.

[quote name='dave_bass5' post='1018463' date='Nov 10 2010, 10:12 AM']Funny that, I also slip a bit of Billie in when i get bored. Normally if a guitar solo goes on for too long (when will they learn), its normally his cue to finish up. The other one is groove is in the heart.[/quote] Funny that, because I've also used Billie Jean to cue the drummer to end that solo now.

[quote name='Bilbo' post='1018408' date='Nov 10 2010, 09:35 AM']... I think bass tapping is almost universally the worst sound you can get out of a bass without driving over it....[/quote] Bilbo, do you have an mp3 of that? I'd like to hear it.

[quote name='thisnameistaken' post='1018244' date='Nov 9 2010, 11:07 PM']And hands up how many of you tried two-handed tapping before you tried reading music? I know I did![/quote] I have never tried one-handed let alone two-handed tapping. The very thought makes me feel faint.

Probably whoever I'm listening to at the time but I don't consciously think of other bass players when I'm working out a new line. I tend to think in terms of chords, scales, and passing notes, and whether it sounds right/good with what the rest of the band are doing - especially the vocal melody and the drums. I'm sure I'm influenced by the bassists I was hearing as a teenager in the 1960s. In fact I came off stage at the end of a gig a couple of years ago and a bassist I vaguely knew who was in the audience but who had never heard me play before came up to me and said 'I'm hearing Paul McCartney, Jack Bruce, and Jack Casady'. I've got a standing bet on with a guitarist that, at every gig, I can somewhere slip in the main bass phrase from Green Onions or from Billie Jean whatever songs we play.

Not a bad price for its heritage. Here's McCartney playing Bill Black's double bass:

[quote name='lojo' post='1018093' date='Nov 9 2010, 08:43 PM']Both the natural actor and the musician would be advised to learn to read, as this can only assist their quest in that field, is what I was trying to say (maybe i can read but not write)[/quote] That is how I understood you. Maybe I'm the one who can't write. [quote name='lojo' post='1018093' date='Nov 9 2010, 08:43 PM']I have assumed "groove" as referred to in the OP is a reference to natural feel and talent, so I've called it "perfect dynamic groove" Which if you have is fantastic, and if you can read also, well you half way to somewhere i have not even packed for yet Surely we all agree groove is a gift, which alone is fantastic, but with theory also it would be much enhanced and honed[/quote] I used to know a pianist who had fantastic natural talent. He'd never had any lessons, never practiced, but he seemed able to play along with anything with a high level of taste, feel, and dexterity. However, he was wholly incapable of turning up for a rehearsal or a gig on time - that's if he showed up at all. (Slightly off topic: I've no idea what happened to him, I haven't seen him in 25 years but he owes me £150.)

[quote name='lojo' post='1017910' date='Nov 9 2010, 06:15 PM']I am not a reader, but I guess that no reader on here would suggest that just because you can sight read notes and timing, that it automatically means that person can play it with perfect dynamic groove I guess I stand to be correct by the readers I can read english, but that doesn't mean that if I read some lines out a hamlet play I can deliver those lines in a way that would amaze And someone with a natural talent for acting who could not read could listen to a tape of hamlet and then recite it much better than me But the non reading acting talent guy, would be advised to learn to read, just to make his life easier if he wishes to read plays Im talking b88888ocks, but then again we are debating natural feel over a learnt academic skill, they are not the same but can compliment each other in ways I wish i could but never will experience[/quote] So, if I want to be an actor, I'd be well advised to learn to read if I could possibly do so. And, if I'm a musician, whether or not I can play with 'perfect dynamic groove' (whatever that is) is not dependent upon whether I can or can not read notation.

[quote name='CHRISDABASS' post='1017128' date='Nov 9 2010, 06:48 AM']why is he holding a bass throughout this video? makes him look a bit stupid lol [/quote] I thought so too, he could have strapped it on.

[quote name='tredders' post='1016707' date='Nov 8 2010, 06:45 PM']Thanks for posting. Looking forward to seeing the '51 P. Skyline version on the way, too...[/quote] That's the one that would interest me. I bet the Skyline will be a while yet.

[quote name='Ou7shined' post='1016794' date='Nov 8 2010, 07:33 PM']Maybe just as well that I pronounce Fodera as Fedora if that's how they get ya then. [/quote] Oh no ... now I'll have to get one ... how much are they?

[quote name='flyfisher' post='1016673' date='Nov 8 2010, 06:27 PM']I'd agree with that, but can anyone think of any famous band where any of the individual members have gone on to bigger things?[/quote] Big Brother and the Holding Company and Janis Joplin - even if she was dead within a couple of years of leaving them.

[quote name='Ou7shined' post='1016781' date='Nov 8 2010, 07:21 PM']Fair enough clever clogs. It'll always be Lak-land to me though... ... Unless I get one and turn pedant. [/quote] Once I knew how to pronounce it ... I just had to have one.

[quote name='Pete Academy' post='1015587' date='Nov 7 2010, 07:34 PM']Following on from Silddx's thread, what do you think is more important? I think it's great to have theory knowledge, but I also think being able to play in time with a great groove is the most important aspect of bass playing, especially in a live situation. Don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing...[/quote] It may not mean a thing if it ain't got that swing ... but the swing on it's own is not enough.