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[quote name='2pods' post='918320' date='Aug 7 2010, 08:33 PM']Looking back I think that's one of the things I really liked about it.[/quote] I can't have disliked it very much because I had it for over twenty years - longest I've ever had any bass.

[quote name='derrenleepoole' post='918218' date='Aug 7 2010, 06:28 PM']Thanks, I've got my new born baby in one arm, so you've saved me some work [/quote] You're welcome. There are almost certainly many more - those were merely the first three I found.

[quote name='TomNicoBassman' post='918061' date='Aug 7 2010, 03:51 PM']Hey folks, I am considering moving to a short or med scale bass. I haven't been able to play one yet but I thought I would ask first what you folks thought. What are your experiences with the shorter scales? What do they offer in ways of tonality and playability? Will appreciate all advice. Cheers, Tom[/quote] You do need to try some. They vary just as much as 34" scale basses do.

[quote name='2pods' post='918079' date='Aug 7 2010, 04:05 PM']As I've posted elsewhere on the forum, I had an Aria TSB550N which was 32" medium scale, with a through neck, and I loved it. Very comfortable.[/quote] I had an Aria TSB550 too. It's a very nice bass. My one criticism of it would be the narrow string spacing at the bridge but that might not bother you.

[quote name='derrenleepoole' post='918199' date='Aug 7 2010, 06:14 PM']I couldn't happier after making the move to shorties after 20+ years of playing. Do a search, as this topic is cropping up more often on BC and quite a few threads discuss the pros and cons of the move [/quote] Here you go: [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=97762"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=97762[/url] [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=95334"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=95334[/url] [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=90957"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=90957[/url]

For an overview of the real complexities of prototyping see [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prototype"]here[/url] at Wikipedia.

[quote name='King Tut' post='917623' date='Aug 7 2010, 01:34 AM']Let's not get hung up on the semantics of 'prototype'! It's about herbie's bass and him letting the OP play it. Herbie says it's a 'prototype' - that's enough for me![/quote] It was enough for me too.

[quote name='thisnameistaken' post='917604' date='Aug 7 2010, 12:59 AM']Kev fact: I did that today when I was recording. That Jazz looks really cool. Anyone know what those strings are?[/quote] They look like Roto Trubass.

[quote name='51m0n' post='917585' date='Aug 7 2010, 12:11 AM']All is explained [url="http://www.curtisnovak.com/vintage/JazzBass59/"]here[/url] EDIT to say sorry to be so much later than the previous pointer in this direction, I was at a gig.... Plux got to play it at the gig on about 5 songs too. Fantastic gig all round. 46 songs in about 3 hours, different band for every song, including string sections, wind instruments, keys, and a brilliant song about a rabbit meeting an untimely end under a bus. Fantastic evening, and made all the more amazing watching my son grooving away like mad on the bass that is on a million hits. To say Herbie is a nice bloke is an understatement of mind boggling proportions! At one point he told Plux that he didnt have to ask him to have a go on it, just pick up and use it. Wow![/quote] Cool, I should have been there.

[quote name='Stacker' post='917595' date='Aug 7 2010, 12:33 AM']There can only be [i]one[/i] prototype. A [i]prototype[/i] is the first and original design of what all other designs follow on from. There cannot possibly be two.[/quote] OK, I see what you mean now. However, wouldn't it be the case that there would be an iterative series of 'prototypes' leading up to the final design which is then prepared for production? They could be called the 'alpha prototype', 'beta prototype', etc. I don't see that there literally has to be only one 'prototype' even if, etymologically, that is the Greek origin of the word. [quote name='Stacker' post='917595' date='Aug 7 2010, 12:33 AM']I have, a very long time ago, seen a photo of that model to which you refer to. That's not a prototype: it's a hotchpotch of a P-bass, a Jazz body and Jazzmaster pups and who knows what kind of circuit. If so, it's not an orginal model or archetype or whatever you want to call it. I, personally, think that was a Friday afternoon on the Corona knock-up. The first prototype has to be the Jazz bass as we know if its got the Jazz neck and nut width, the 2 kit-kat single coils, the Jazz body shape and the VVT layout. Anything else is bastardized and is not a prototype/archetype.[/quote] Fair enough, but the Fender website calls it a Jazz bass prototype.

[quote name='RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE' post='917378' date='Aug 6 2010, 08:34 PM']I have a Dean Hollowbody bass. Trouble is , I don't know where to put another button on it , so that I can actually play it with a strap.Any ideas? (I don't want to put it on the neck tho' ) Don't know why these manufacturers ,didn't put two buttons on the bass anyway. Cheers[/quote] Bootlace around the headstock behind the strings above the nut. Tie the bootlace through the hole in the strap. Sort of like this:

[quote name='Stacker' post='917330' date='Aug 6 2010, 07:40 PM']if it was a 1959 prototype in the true sense of the word it would have had the VVT circuit, as opposed to the stacks.[/quote] I'm not sure what you mean by 'true sense of the word' but some of the prototypes also had Jazzmaster style soap bar pickups, 4-pole at the bridge and 5-pole at the neck: The one in the picture does appear to have the VVT control setup. But I would have thought that if Fender were building various prototypes then it would not be impossible that they built Flowers' bass as a prototype. With Fender, never say never.

[quote name='Plux_the_Duck' post='916493' date='Aug 5 2010, 10:33 PM']Well at the Brighton Rockshop (which Herbie Flowers kinda leads) he said to me on tuesday, I'll bring in my '59 jazz and you can have a go, which was really cool for him to say, cos I'm only like 16 and all. It was really easy to play for a bass with such a high action, Because of the height (and tapewound strings) it had a rather fretless-like sound. I've never played an instrument so old and I'd like to thank Herbie for letting me have a go,[/quote] Very nice, maybe I should go to one of those Brighton Rockshops.

[quote name='The Bass Doc' post='917266' date='Aug 6 2010, 06:19 PM']Just interested to know how it's quoted as a '59 when the Jazz was apparently introduced in 1960? Maybe the next BCer to have a go could whip the neck off and look for a date? [/quote] According to [url="http://curtisnovak.com/vintage/JazzBass59/"]this website[/url], Herbie claims to have bought the Jazz bass on October 12th 1959 from Manny's in New York and that it's a prototype. It even had a fuzz circuit in it.

I've been in Cuba for the last ten days. Travelled around a lot and heard many Cuban musicians playing mostly Cuban songs. I must have heard [i]Guantanamera[/i] fifty times. There were occasions when I wouldn't have known whether it was strictly Cuban or not. Sat in a restaurant one lunchtime, our driver, Emilio, leaning over and pointing at the musicians, says, 'No Cubans, Mexicans'. However, I also heard a few non-Cuban songs played in Cuban style: Hey Jude, And I Love Her, Michelle, Let It Be, She's Leaving Home.

[quote name='Waldo' post='906770' date='Jul 27 2010, 10:30 AM']I haven't been on here on a while so someone will have to help me out on this: Is this guy some sort of wind up merchant?[/quote] Read the thread. I gave up responding to him ages ago on page 4/5 when he could only manage personal abuse rather than reasoned discussion.

[quote name='witterth' post='903939' date='Jul 24 2010, 12:37 PM']+ 1 with that (except c moon, ...dross )[/quote] I knew someone wouldn't like C Moon.

[quote name='skankdelvar' post='903934' date='Jul 24 2010, 12:32 PM']While passing through New York recently, I was invited to a quiet little dinner party by my dear old chum UN Secretary-General Ban Ki Moon. "Just bring some beer and a dessert - maybe a raspberry ripple" he chirruped in that funny way he has. Thus equipped, I arrived to find myself sat next to Sir Paul. Over the soup we started talking and he got onto the subject of 'Macca-hate' on bass guitar forums. "Y'know, Skank La, I jus' don' gerrit, like" he opined mournfully "I lairn to play a left-cacker, I write some of the biggest hits of all time, I big up James Jamerson as a fab cat, give my cash away for music schools and save the Buddy Holly back catalogue while Jacko's using the cash from [i]my[/i] publishing to build kiddy-trap theme parks. I marry a tofu-muncher which means I can never have another bacon sarnie [i]ever [/i]. Then she dies and a one-legged psycho takes half me cash in the divorce and [i]still[/i] them BassChatters don't like me. Why is it?" I dodged a bread roll thrown by Hillary Clinton (Jesus, that woman can drink) and pondered. "Well, Pazza, me old mucker, it's simple. It's because you're not John Lennon. If someone had blown your brains all over the pavement thirty years ago, you'd be up there on a pedestal. 'Stead of which, people whom you've never met sit around and have colossal arguments over whether you're a twat or not." Sir Paul stared into his nut crumble. "Not a lot I can do about that, is there?". I nodded. "Short of throwing yourself under a bus, no, not a lot. Pass the butter, could you?"[/quote] Brilliantly on the button as always, Skank La.

[quote name='wombatboter' post='903892' date='Jul 24 2010, 11:59 AM']I think for instance "Hi Hi Hi" could have been one of those Beatles classics without any doubt..[/quote] +1 and, for example: Maybe I'm Amazed Jet Band on the Run Live and Let Die Silly Love Songs Coming Up C Moon (and many more) could easily have been great Beatles songs.

[quote name='algmusic' post='903685' date='Jul 24 2010, 12:23 AM']Hi, I tried the Tru Bass Strings.. PERFECT.. nice warm, big warm acoustic style sound style sound. The bigger flat strings was the best choice for the Aerodyne bass and a complete different sound to the other jazz which has a more vintage vibe with balls. I like the idea of the Aerodyne for the Groove old skool, or folky, acoustic style and the relic for the pop, rock, and modern stuff. And I'm getting the Terror Bass on sunday.. Good times [/quote] Great, glad you like them. The Trubass are the only Rotosound string I really like, although I've not used them for a while. I've got La Bella Black Nylons on my Squier Jazz.

[quote name='Marvin' post='903647' date='Jul 23 2010, 11:03 PM']Overall then a pointless thread. [/quote] -1, I'd say that it's a very nice thread.

[quote name='51m0n' post='903344' date='Jul 23 2010, 04:15 PM']Of the few Beatles songs I can bear to listen to, Mcartney didnt write them.[/quote] Often, the songs with what I would say are the more interesting bass lines are the songs McCartney didn't write

[quote name='Big_Stu' post='903265' date='Jul 23 2010, 02:58 PM']If you're incapable of interpretation of discussion without it being spelt out to you in words of single syllables please don't try to twist my words into a meaning to suit your own.[/quote] OK, I won't quote you or interpret you again.