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[url="http://www.rockschool.co.uk/rsl/sites/6/promotional/BassDay_08_Poster.pdf"]This was the poster for last year's bass day[/url]. I couldn't find this year's.

[quote name='BottomEndian' post='590227' date='Sep 4 2009, 10:59 PM']OK, just to test this "intonation changes as you move up the board" idea, I've just spent 45 minutes setting up my fretless EBMM SR5 to intonate bang on the lines, to the highest accuracy I can muster with the Sonic Research Turbo Tuner ST-200 (which is ±a gnat's sperm -- something silly like 0.02 cents). I set it up so that 12th-fretline harmonic = 12th-fretline fingered with the middle of my finger on the line. I've then checked up and down the neck to see how the intonation is at the low and high ends. It's as spot-on as I can measure. No intonation drift at all. If the middle of my finger's on a line, it's in tune. No questions asked. It's surely just a matter of how accurately the lines are positioned in the board? My SR5's a bit of a freak-job: the original pau ferro board's been replaced with a polyester-coated ebony board with maple lines, and I'm pretty sure the new board was handmade to high standards. The maker might have taken the time and effort to position the lines so the intonation's spot-on, rather than just copying the lines from standard fret positions. If I get the chance over the weekend, I'll try the same thing with my Squier. That could be a whole different kettle of apes. Or not. And then the can's open, worms everywhere... Of course, I agree wholeheartedly with the general sentiment that the lines and dots are merely guides. Ears, ears, ears. It's just that this whole intonation thing is getting interesting now.[/quote] Well, as I said, I don't know the physics of it and I'm playing an unlined fretless now but my experience on a lined fretless Jazz was that my finger's relationship to the line varied up and down the neck. Which it seems to me is what Gary Willis is saying on the website you posted. However, I don't dispute your experience with your bass.

[quote name='Spyke' post='590210' date='Sep 4 2009, 10:31 PM']don't know what make or gauge the retail strings are on my Ibanez SR500 .... ... I need to know the gauge of the retail strings first of all.[/quote] Buy a [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/6in-Caliper-Micrometer-Tool-LCD-Digital-Vernier-150mm_W0QQitemZ170379374842QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Measuring_Tools_Levels?hash=item27ab66f0fa&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14"]micrometer[/url]. You can measure the strings.

[quote name='EBS_freak' post='590154' date='Sep 4 2009, 09:08 PM']Yup[/quote] Thought so. I might go if I can make it if only to see Stewart (Dave's Drummer) who I used to be in a band with and haven't seen for ages.

So, if Gary Willis and I are correct - this poll is spurious. The line is merely a clue, your ear is what matters.

[quote name='EBS_freak' post='589997' date='Sep 4 2009, 06:34 PM']Bass Players day at the Portland at Hove. 1st Nov[/quote] Is that Dave Barnard's do?

[quote name='The Bass Doc' post='590040' date='Sep 4 2009, 07:12 PM']I've absolutely no need to doubt you but would you mind explaining why this should be. I've been playing unlined fretless on and off since the late 70s - there are the occasional dots in the side and I've just checked they are in exactly the place a fret would be and I can't say I've had any problem with intonation. I'm simply interested in what the explanation (in terms of physics) is that when frets are removed the point changes.[/quote] I don't know the physics of it but to my ear that's how it works and [url="http://garywillis.com/pages/bass/bassmanual/intonation4.html"]Gary Willis agrees[/url].

[quote name='Al Heeley' post='589992' date='Sep 4 2009, 06:28 PM']Then I shall drink to your health, sir have a good one[/quote] Steak and chips, two large bottles of Budvar. Possibly more to come later. Ahhhhh.

[quote name='Al Heeley' post='589981' date='Sep 4 2009, 06:17 PM']To be honest, people who do nothing but whine about other people whinging (whatever the spelling) shoould have a big H for hippocrite brazed to their spotty backsides with a very hot branding iron. Or am i over-reacting? Hety it's the weekend - lighten up, have a beer.[/quote] I'll be having a beer very very soon.

[quote name='Beedster' post='589969' date='Sep 4 2009, 06:05 PM']Let's start a 'Bassists Against Whinging' group mate [/quote] Yes, it's not right that there is no such group. Why has somebody not started it before now?

[quote name='Beedster' post='589940' date='Sep 4 2009, 05:49 PM']Lot of whingeing (is that how you spell it?) on BC at the moment.[/quote] I've noticed that.

[quote name='BassAgent' post='589462' date='Sep 4 2009, 10:40 AM'][/quote] I like the colour on the Fender Jazz.

Not all WD prices are bad.

[quote name='OutToPlayJazz' post='589728' date='Sep 4 2009, 02:52 PM'][url="http://www.bassemporium.com/newsletters/0609newsletter.html"]http://www.bassemporium.com/newsletters/0609newsletter.html[/url] Just found this hiding in the bass emporium website with all the other Ed Friedland (The Bass Whisperer) reviews. Most interesting to see someone take the time and effort to test all the strings so thoroughly on the same bass. Rich.[/quote] That's fantastic, even though I inevitably won't read it all. Ed Friedland is a legend in his own time.

My experience is that GAK will get close to the Thomann price and sometimes beat it. So I'd go there and try it first.

[quote name='Clarky' post='589687' date='Sep 4 2009, 02:21 PM']My all-time fave DB player is Scott Lafaro in the Bill Evans trio - so melodic and driving Also big votes for Paul Chambers (mainly with Miles Davis but his solo stuff is also pretty good, eg, try You'd be so nice to come home to) and Charlie Mingus (esp on the Massey Hall album with the all-star line-up of Charlie Parker, Bud Powell and Max Roach)[/quote] +1 on LaFaro and Mingus. I've been listening to them a lot too. Can't play like any of them though.

[quote name='BottomEndian' post='589629' date='Sep 4 2009, 01:21 PM']So, all you lined fretless players: where do you put your fingers? I've been quite enamoured with [url="http://garywillis.com/pages/bass/bassmanual/intonation3.html"]the Gary Willis method of setting up intonation[/url] so you're in tune if your finger is just behind the line (roughly the same position you'd put your finger on a fretted board), and that's how I've set up my fretlesses. It means your muscle memory doesn't need to change when you switch from fretted to fretless. However, it's pretty obvious that basses aren't generally [b]designed [/b]to be set up like that -- I'm quite often right at the end of the screw travel for the saddles. Also, if I were to get an unlined fretless (and I'd like to, just for the look of it ), it'd be harder to set up the intonation in the same way, and I think you'd naturally aim to be bang on the side dots. So I might switch back to being bang on the line. So I'm just wondering what everyone else does, and what your general thoughts are on the subject. And if there are any crazy people who set it up to be in tune [b]above[/b] the line... well, why? Tell all...[/quote] But where your finger goes for correct intonation will vary depending on where on the neck you are. For example, it will be different at the first fretline than the thirteenth fretline.

[quote name='alexclaber' post='589794' date='Sep 4 2009, 04:06 PM']It seems that song was first released in late '79, which explains a lot... Alex[/quote]

Also, your 'Wanted' was for a trade for a Zoom B2 of no interest to me - even if I had seen it.

[quote name='largo' post='589411' date='Sep 4 2009, 09:32 AM']What do you know... It's a fairly old post now but I posted a wanted notice for an Aphex Punch Factory pedal a couple of months back. Then, 2 came up for sale here in the last week (a bit like buses) and I missed both. Would it be an idea that fellow users check the "Wanted" section on the BC forum before posting a For Sale notice? Just a thought?[/quote] I was the seller of one of those Punch Factories this week. I did search the whole site for 'punch factory' as well as the For Sale and Wanted forums. I found no thread from you. I have now been able to spot the thread to which I guess you are referring but it is over four months old. It doesn't show up on a search of the Wanted forum, only on a whole site search but even then way down the list.

[quote name='Hot Tub' post='589255' date='Sep 3 2009, 11:25 PM']*Feeling:- Alien concept to anyone who listens to (or plays) jazz, or anything written after 1976,[/quote] What a load of nonsense. Wasn't John McCoy a jazz player?

[quote name='bassatnight' post='588845' date='Sep 3 2009, 04:53 PM']Gents, Check out Machinehead musics website, they have the real Mcoy bought from Sothebys in 2003 its a Lakland semi acoustic they have it up for sale at a cool £2,500. I used to live in Hitchin where Machinehead are based and have bought lots of stuff of them in the past so I know this is pucker![/quote] That's a good price for a US Lakland #002. Trouble is the Lakland website gives the US hollow body serials as HB01 up to HB96.

All of the things already stated and remember that female vocalists are very popular.

At the moment Danny Thompson and Paul Chambers.

[quote name='Jean-Luc Pickguard' post='551452' date='Jul 25 2009, 10:11 PM']I'm really into Willie Dixon at the moment. He was a great songwriter and his basslines work perfectly without being flashy. I love James Jamerson's upright on the Four Tops Jazz album as well you can tell he really enjoyed playing on those tracks.[/quote] What album is that? Is it [i]Breaking Through[/i]?