EssentialTension

[quote name='lozbass' post='545111' date='Jul 20 2009, 08:57 AM']Hi and thanks for the help - I'm just amazed you could even attempt to analyse the dot positioning from my cr*p photos![/quote] Photos were fine, my analysis was cr*p.

[quote name='silverfoxnik' post='544689' date='Jul 19 2009, 02:11 PM']FWIW, I remember hearing Dave's TF at a gig in May and it sounded absolutely glorious, so I assume Legion's will do too...[/quote] Thanks Nik. FWIW, that would probably have been the TF, P pickup only, treble mostly rolled off, Markbass LMII with EQ flat and perhaps VPF at about 11 o'clock, through two Ashdown 1x15"s and my fingers over the P pickup. Whoever gets this, I really don't think you would be disappointed; I've even thought about trying to find the fretted version to pair with mine.

[quote name='lozbass' post='544645' date='Jul 19 2009, 12:57 PM']On the dot markers - I've measured carefully, and it appears that the markers are 'between the line' - thanks for all the advice and highly informed comment[/quote] Hey, Loz, I'm wrong then - so much for my forensic skills!!

I played my TF at three gigs this week - it does 'deep'. That's why I bought it to replace a fretless Jazz which was lovely and sounded great but didn't do 'deep' in the way I was looking for. It's fretless Fender heaven around here at the moment.

[quote name='lozbass' post='543894' date='Jul 18 2009, 11:57 AM']Hi all, thanks for the comments - and wow on the forensics - I'm stunned! I'm playing a wedding tonight and in a major rush to get over there. I'll respond properly tomorrow - my impression is that the dots are 'between' the lines as for a standard fretted. I think Denis was aiming for the Jaco idea - a bass built in the early '60s with the frets removed (I'm not sure however). Martin Peterson also found the dots to be 'between' not 'on' the line and intonated the bass with this in mind. I managed to get some black felt washers yesterday and will fit them over the lacquer cracks tomorrow and take some further photographs (I'm not sure what it will look like but we'll all see soon - the idea was suggested by a local luthier). Cheers all, Lozbass[/quote] It should be easy enough to tell with the bass in person: the octave double dot would be very close to 17 inches from the nut. If it's not, then I am wrong.

[quote name='Beedster' post='543871' date='Jul 18 2009, 11:23 AM']Thanks Dave, you're clearly a serious forensic bass investigator OK, there certainly was return of gas but, all things considered, I've got my fretless Jazz situation sorted and I really can't imagine getting a better tone from any other instrument (although I have to say that one very tempting aspect of Loz's bass over mine is the ebony board). What I really want to get sorted is my fretless Precision situation, I have a lovely old instrument but I find the P-PUP alone doesn't quite do it live so I'm looking for a P-J fretless, like your TF Dave (and you'll no doubt remember we had a few chats about that a while back). So, I find myself drawn, and not for the first time, to Shaggy's '73.... If I had bottomless pockets, Loz's bass would be in my collection for sure, myself and Loz have chatted about it a few times and each time I really have to say "you don't need it". However, someone here will get a real bargain and a cracking bass Chris[/quote] Well, if there is such a job as 'serious forensic bass investigator' I think I'd quite like it but I may have been talking rubbish. With the Tony Franklin the ability to add a little Jazz bridge pickup now and then certainly can help with cutting through the mix and I'd say the ebony fingerboard does give the P sound a slight crispness compared to rosewood. However, the real killer bonus with the TF is (IMO) the side dot at the 'first fret'. This Jazz bass has got to be a real bargain at the price - wherever the side dots are, although if they are 'between' and not 'on the lines' I don't really see the point of them. A bad clue is as bad as no clue at all.

[quote name='Beedster' post='543255' date='Jul 17 2009, 02:46 PM']Just noticed "markers as for fretted" which is a relief as I can now stop gassing Incredible price for the bass, so it won't be around long Chris[/quote] [quote name='EssentialTension' post='543285' date='Jul 17 2009, 03:08 PM']Sorry if this gasses you up again Chris but in the third pic top row I'd say the side dot looks to be nearer the correct place for G and not somewhere between F# and G. But maybe my eyes are playing up.[/quote] I measured the distance from the nut to the first side dot in that picture relative to the measurement between the tuner shafts in the pic and compared it to the the same relative measurement on my Jazz bass. IMHO, the dot definitely marks the third 'fret' and is not where the dot would be on a fretted instrument. 'Markers as for fretted' must mean side dots at 3, 5, 7, 9, 12, 15, 17, 19 but 'on the line' and not 'between the lines' as they would be on a fretted instrument. Is this good sense or am I fooling myself?