EssentialTension

Number 2 usually means getting paid.

It seems to me there are really two general ways of running a band: 1 It's a collective where everyone and anyone has a veto (usually after giving a song a fair chance); or ... 2 It's someone's band, in which case that person is the musical director and everyone plays as they are asked.

It's all a bit hazy after all these years, but didn't the Edgar Broughton Band (and/or The Pink Fairies) have a tendency to play on the back of a lorry outside of various festivals with banners saying 'Free Festival Now'. Am I imagining this?

I still prefer unlined.

It's not fun if it spoils the song.

Yes, some band members don't seem to realise that, for example, the bass line would likely need to be different at a different enough tempo, faster or slower.

Is it because Antoria might sue them?

Pick playing can be very funky ...

I played with a drummer who did this. BPM was agreed in advance for all songs and saved on metronome. Drummer takes beat from little flashing light on the metronome, counts us in and off we go. Perfect.

Very nice.

Is that a Maruszczyk?

The audience commonly do not know and even less do they care. In ten years I have only ever one time had an audience member comment on my fretless or upright playing ... and that was another bassist on Basschat. The words 'kudos', 'wow' and 'without lines' were not used.

But many of us are very similar so there is very good reason and a sensible motive to test and even to adopt some methods that have worked for others.

Never heard of him before but I can tell he's better at it than me. Only 17 here but probably practised quite a lot ...

I don't play jazz, I rarely go above E on the G string, I don't get asked to solo, I use open strings whenever possible, and I certainly didn't spend 35 years listening to a drone ... ... but I've never had complaints about my intonation on upright or fretless whether lined or unlined except when I already knew I had missed the note. Like was said before, the OP will have to choose; but it doesn't take 35 years to learn some competence on a fretless, lined or unlined.

And, as you know, even with lines the test of a note is the ear not the line.

Partially different perhaps but really not completely different.

Woodroffe's in Birmingham used to stock a lot of Kramers, IIRC. Probably the same ones that finished up in Musical Exchange.

That's exactly what I was trying to say.

I don’t disagree with them, I just have a different experience. I have played lined fretless more than unlined but I still feel happier, more in control and better intonated on unlined. The OP will have to decide for himself.

Is it a Kramer?

Having played both, I much prefer unlined. Either way you will still need to use your ears and if you are going to use the lines then you'll be staring at the fingerboard. A quality unlined should have side dots probably at the 'fret positions' 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 12 etc. and, if you need to look, they are easier to see than the fingerboard lines would be. Worse still is when a lined fretless has side dots in between the 'fret positions' - that is really very stupid in my view and is worse than no help.

Yes, he looks much better with short hair too. So do not avoid that look.

Here you go ...