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[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1469613670' post='3099692'] The whole idea of a cover band is to play tunes that the audience knows. [/quote] No. That's maybe one kind of so-called cover band but it's by no means the nature or point of all such so-called cover bands or all such so-called covers. It's completely feasible and reasonable to cover a song whether or not the audience will know it. You can actually have an audience going 'That's a good song, who did you say wrote that?'. Or more likely, they won't care who wrote it as long as it's got a proper tune, a hook or two, and maybe it makes you want to dance or at least tap a foot.

[quote name='PaulGibsonBass' timestamp='1469565076' post='3099466'] Yes. He was in the band the first time I saw them live, in 1984. [/quote] He also co-wrote [i]Torn[/i] and was producer and bassist on Natalie Imbruglia's version of that song - as discussed in another thread.

[quote name='KevB' timestamp='1469524401' post='3098938'] Think Billy Fury wrote most of his own stuff too but it's true they were more the exceptions than the norm. It was mostly pop stars having songs picked for them by management and producers that thought they suited the act. Often worked very successfully but you can see the potential frustration for those acts that were convinced they could write as well as perform. For some it worked in reverse such as already mentioned Carole King, Neil Sedaka etc who started out primarily as writers for other people before getting out there and performing their own material themselves. [/quote] BIlly Fury wrote the whole of his first album [i]The Sound of Fury[/i]. But, as you say, the exception.

[quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1469519869' post='3098886'] Phil Jones has the right idea. [url="http://s1128.photobucket.com/user/h4ppyjack/media/Just%20Stuff/Music%20and%20Musicians/PJWeb-PhilAirPulse.png.html"][/url] [/quote] Phil Jones other idea ..

[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1469518831' post='3098872'] Whatever happened to beat combos? [/quote] Still going ...

[quote name='skankdelvar' timestamp='1469481790' post='3098756'] ... When I first started out all bands were called bands ... [color=#faebd7][i].[/i][/color] [/quote] When I first started out all bands were called groups.

[quote name='Phil Starr' timestamp='1469516003' post='3098852'] I remember reading an interview with Paul Bushnell, bassist with Ednaswap. Finding out their song they'd been gigging for years was a hit without them being involved broke up the band. Paul Bushnell did allright out of it having seen who he's played with since, here's the article. [url="http://www.performing-musician.com/pm/nov09/articles/paulbushnell.htm"]http://www.performin...aulbushnell.htm[/url] [/quote] The song actually predates Ednaswap though doesn't it and was given to Imbruglia by one of the original writers? Is that not right? And Preven and Cutler must have done quite well financially from the Imbruglia version? And here's another version by one of the original writers ... http://youtu.be/Z6E2whjUOcY

I forgot to mention that I can see the music stand more easily if I sit down.

My strap is adjusted so that the bass hangs in roughly the same place sitting as standing. Then, most learning and practising is done sitting down or, if I get the urge, I stand up.

[b]BBC Radio 2 - Greatest Cover Versions: Top 50[/b] [url="http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/playlists/zzzzcm"]http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/playlists/zzzzcm[/url]

[url="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cover_version"]https://en.wikipedia...i/Cover_version[/url] [url="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cover_band"]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cover_band[/url]

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1469467904' post='3098571'] If you make some method of returning to something it's a record, the black circular thing came much later than the word didn't it? [/quote] Exactly.

Dave [s]Edmunds[/s] Mackay demands Billy Bremner play fewer mad guitar solos.

[quote name='Nicko' timestamp='1469451540' post='3098360'] It could well be. Still, suggestions for getting a sound close to this with an electric would still be welcome. [/quote] Fender Precision, possibly fretless, flatwound La Bellas, play fingerstyle over the end of the fingerboard, treble rolled off.

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1469451432' post='3098358'] Another disappointing thread title... [/quote] Yes, I too was expecting the tonewood discussion all over again.

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1469450423' post='3098351'] The person who wrote it must have made some kind of recording to be able to have it covered, even Tab would be sufficient as a 'record' of the song's existence? [/quote] Often, in the old days, the composer would have written out the dots above the lyricist's words. No recording, unless we are going to call the dots a recording method which, of course, it was.

Is it producer Phil Thornalley on double bass?

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1469449964' post='3098347'] I've never been in an originals band that hauled sound and lights and I've never been in a covers band that didn't. Non of said bands performed in Milwaukee. [/quote] How about Wigan? Ever play there?

[quote name='JonesTheCat' timestamp='1468880058' post='3094071'] On a similar note I just re-discovered what a cracking pop album Left of the Middle by Natalie Imbruglia is, purely from hearing Torn on the radio and actually listening to the bass line. ... [/quote] [url="http://www.soundonsound.com/people/phil-thornalley-torn"]http://www.soundonsound.com/people/phil-thornalley-torn[/url]

[quote name='Grahambythesea' timestamp='1469448282' post='3098329'] I agree, didn't realise it until I saw the film of Mama Mia on which I am told Rutger played. If he didn't someone did an awfully good impression of his sound. [/quote] I believe Gunnarson is credited as bass and bouzouki on the film soundtrack.

[quote name='Sammers' timestamp='1469439863' post='3098222'] I'm not so sure that'd be classed as trying to pass it off as an original, it was still credited to the original writers so was all above board... unlike Led Zep with dazed & confused when that was released! [/quote] ... and one of the original writers produced it and played on it.

And here's Imbruglia produced by one of the writers, Phil Thornalley, who also played bass ... [media]http://youtu.be/VV1XWJN3nJo[/media]

http://youtu.be/47Z2AiQqsD8

With Danish lyrics by Elisabeth Nielsen ... [media]http://youtu.be/fO5syjCX0xs[/media]

[quote name='lojo' timestamp='1469378062' post='3097821'] I seemed to remember the Australian girl from Neigbours passed off "Torn" or a similar song as an original , then Chris Evans found european version which sounded exactly the same and predated it, so Im sure its not done and got away with 100s of times in the charts. [/quote] These versions (and more) all predate Natalie Imbruglia ... the song was composed and written by members of Ednaswap (Anne Preven and Scott Cutler) and producer (Phil Thornally who also produced the Natalie Imbruglia album). [media]http://youtu.be/V1SH1YdITDI[/media]