EssentialTension

It's Basschat, it's mostly predictable but never boring.

[quote name='Big_Stu' timestamp='1455550764' post='2980099'] ............ one top football team ....... [/quote] I did have a feeling that something would be said ... maybe even no top football teams anymore.

[quote name='neepheid' timestamp='1455532861' post='2979843'] Any other arbiters of taste and fashion like to chip in? I'd like to make sure I'm not breaking any rules with my clothing and I need your approval to survive [/quote] We're all arbiters of taste whether we say 'do' or 'don't'.

[quote name='Mykesbass' timestamp='1455528896' post='2979781'] Surely some of the history and culture of the city (much of which ET has now listed) is what allowed the Beatles to thrive - the docks, the immigration, the strong sense of identity? So by celebrating the Beatles the city is also celebrating its greater history and culture. [/quote] I think that's correct. For example, being a port city connected through trade to North America (and elsewhere) is a factor in the development of Liverpool's popular music through the availability of imported vinyl. But also, Liverpool had a long history in popular entertainment long before The Beatles.

[quote name='Mykesbass' timestamp='1455528949' post='2979783'] Ken Dodd [/quote] Billy Fury http://youtu.be/DIJDVCI9PDk

[quote name='Mykesbass' timestamp='1455528949' post='2979783'] Ken Dodd [/quote] Did you know that Ken Dodd's dad's dog's dead?

[quote name='Shambo' timestamp='1455527871' post='2979762'] Hailing originally from that part of the world, I've had the impression that the Beatles driven tourism has been growing over the last decade or so. As the years pass, the myth increases and so do the Beatles tourists. Economics of the region being what they are, it makes sense to cater for this growth industry, thereby tempting more tourists in reciprocating growth... eventually creating a urban theme park, multinational ownership the renaming of the city as Beatlesworld. [/quote] Windsor could become Queenland South, and Balmoral could be Queenland North. And Abbey Road could be Beatle Street and Liverpool Airport could be renamed John Lennon Airport ... er, just a minute.

[quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1455526497' post='2979735'] Wow. Do people actually wear this stuff? [/quote] Sad, but they do.

[quote name='4stringslow' timestamp='1455526473' post='2979733'] As I said, I count myself as a Beatles fan and certainly accept they were, and are, hugely influential. But Dad's post is an excellent reminder that the arts are gloriously wide and diverse and, for my money, anyone who latches onto one artist or band as 'a way of life' is seriously depriving themselves with such a narrow outlook. It's also a recipe for artistic stagnation. [/quote] Yes, very much agreed. 'What do they know of The Beatles who only The Beatles know.'

[quote name='Beer of the Bass' timestamp='1455525680' post='2979723'] Yes, I found the article interesting. Most tourist-focussed cities have a broader range of reasons for people to visit, so it puts Liverpool in a fairly unique situation. There must be other notable things about the history and culture of the city, but the Beatles are the first thing we all think of. [/quote] True enough, but there are loads of other places of broader interest: for example ... Two cathedrals Albert dock Lots of galleries and museums e.g. the Walker, the Tate, the Lady Lever Gallery, etc. etc., the International Slavery Museum, the Port Sunlight Museum, etc. etc. Two top football grounds A ferry across the Mersey Radio City tower ... and many more.

[quote name='Beer of the Bass' timestamp='1455525216' post='2979718'] Yes, it must be time for this thread again. It's been at least a week... [/quote] I know, I was hoping for a discussion of the article linked rather than the same old rubbish again. But that was yesterday ...

[quote name='Heathy' timestamp='1455524506' post='2979712'] Actually, I think the words were 'she loves you, yeh, yeh, yeh' [/quote] ... yeah, yeah, yeah

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1455495062' post='2979659'] All my troubles seemed so far away. [/quote] Now it looks as though they're here to stay.

[quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1455504431' post='2979674'] In his day, Paganini revolutionised the solo violin. Although his international career was short (a mere 6 years...), in that time he alone set the benchmark which is still in place today. It's difficult for youngsters to fully appreciate the true impact of his ground-breaking work and immense popularity; I suppose one had to be there to 'get it'. There are many scholars, musicians and historians that would maintain that the greatest of them all, in so many respects, was J. S. Bach. It's difficult to fathom from this far off in time the depth of his influence and creativity, bringing, to cite just a few examples, the solo instrument to the fore as it had never been hitherto envisaged, in composing multi-part harmony of such beauty, depth and intelligence that they are studied still, and have yet to reveal all of their subtleties. We owe him counterpoint (yes, it was unthought of before his extensive use of this art...); even such apparently evident techniques such as changing keys was new and bold. Truly, on the shoulders of giants are the humble songsters of modern times, often lauded for their innovation and impact. We'll see how, 4 centuries later, they are to be judged. I doubt there'll be many standing half as tall still as him. No, I know it's not relevant today; that it's not 'rock', and therefore 'doesn't count', but if we're to talk of [i]real [/i]game-changers, I reckon there's a lot to be considered in being humble as to what 'greatness' really means. Just sayin'. [/quote] [url="http://www.paganini.com/nicolo/nicindex.htm"]Paganini[/url], I wasn't there but I get it ... and I have been to Genoa.

[quote name='RhysP' timestamp='1455488927' post='2979616'] Responsible for 1 in every 100 jobs in Liverpool? I'm amazed at this statement - there are people with jobs in Liverpool? [/quote] Ho Ho Ho ... now, when did I last hear that one? ... I think it was yesterday.

[quote name='Lord Sausage' timestamp='1455385054' post='2978699'] No such thing! [/quote] Correct.

I know some of you don't like the Beatles but regarding this article whether you like them or not is irrelevant ... still ... feel free if you must. [url="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-35541130"]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-35541130[/url] I'll be popping up to the 'pool myself on Wednesday but I won't be doing anything Beatles related.

[quote name='geoffbyrne' timestamp='1455362696' post='2978387'] Anyone got a whammy bar that fits the Fender trem unit? The Squier one is s gnat's whisker too small! G. [/quote] I am not at home so can't check but isn't the Squier a push fit but the Fender is screw fit?

http://youtu.be/hBGeQ0zSifc

1/10 by knowledge - 'Judas Priest' comes from a Dylan song. 3/10 by guessing although I may have vaguely known that Gillan was once in Black Sabbath. I have absolutely no interest in or knowledge of metal, as far as I am aware.

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1454953206' post='2974569'] God yes, it was. I was in my mid-30s at the time and getting on a bit for a hipster even then. [/quote] I am sure we were both hipsters before our time - or I would have been if I could have grown a beard.

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1454952785' post='2974566'] I was a regular at the Blue Note Club in Hoxton... I think that was a while back, though... [/quote] How long ago it seems to be depends on how old you were then and how old you are now. Time is relative - Einstein said that. The Blue Note was mid-90s onwards wasn't it? - I said that.

[quote name='Prosebass' timestamp='1454928747' post='2974178'] When it comes to U2, Mr Clayton is not the problem. [/quote] Yes, I don't really like U2 but Clayton is not the reason.

[quote name='project_c' timestamp='1454801882' post='2973194'] No, that's possibly before my time, what were they like? (I was living in Brighton in the 90s, way before i picked up the bass). I kind of mean the East London 'scene' that has been evolving in that area for the past 10 or 15 years. Jazz funk was considered deeply uncool amongst the shoreditch lot as far as i knew. [/quote] I lived in Stepney and then Mile End from 1989 to 2001. [i]Bass Clef[/i] and [i]Treble Clef[/i] ran from mid-eighties, I think, until closing about 1994. There was another club, in Bow I think, that played a lot of so-called acid-jazz. It may have been called [i]Echoes[/i]. I was in my late thirties but the place was full of twenties and older too. I moved to Brighton in 2001 so I can't comment on the period since then. [quote name='project_c' timestamp='1454852918' post='2973523'] Looks great! But the 80's was ages ago, everything has changed an awful lot since then, especially in that area. Are you not surprised to see this genre becoming popular with 20 somethings again? I definitely am. Maybe it's not such a big deal, I don't know. [/quote] No, I'm not surprised at all. I work with 17-18 year olds and in my experience they are into a wide variety of music including funk/jazz. I also have a 22 year old son who's a musician and he (and many of his mates) would think liking stuff (or not) by genre was deeply uncool but anyway would, in practice, like jazz/funk. Anyway, all genres come back, in maybe slightly variant forms, in the end. If one genre is thought deeply uncool by one generation then there's a very good chance the next generation will like it a lot.