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Thank you guys and all that is good advice (Im trying it out now) any decent you tube links? ( I know its cheating!!)

SIR DUKE,Stevie Wonder,..got to a loss at 01:45 am after a few hours and now sacking it...Its been asked for before, but I've been asked to play it soon and its tough innit? help me please. and not just a "look- what- I -can- do- and- you- cant-" link any good links that simply shows me how its done,....please?...oh go on!! Its not like it was "Rhythm Stick" again surley......Phwewewww oh and by the way ..Rhythm Stick?? hows that done ? Love Witterth looking at a tough gig soon!!

I hate rehearsals, am I alone in this? is it really just me?

thanks that was a good call. love scotty

You are the best bass player in that band Nige. seriously, though, glad its all working out. youre a good man whos posts I seek out. I'm gonna come to see you play soon as... (I agree though, a positive thread is what is needed) I like the guys/lass in my band too, even if it is only a covers thing. its good fun and makes me look forward to saturday. and I dont "sigh" when I pick up the case ( I used to ) I met them through BassChat too!! so all is good. ATB W

[quote name='Count Bassy' timestamp='1351547501' post='1852565'] [color=#a4a4a4][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]Posted Today, 06:37 PM[/size][/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=4][size=3][b][url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?app=forums&module=forums&section=findpost&pid=1852234"][/url]Count Bassy, on 29 October 2012 - 04:54 PM, said:[/b][/size] [size=3]There's a non-sequitur here. There are bands that play the original lines and arrangements but are still crap, and there are brilliant bands that 'do their own thing'. The two classifactions, i.e. Crap/Good and Original/Non-original, are not intrinsically linked.[/size][/size][/font][/color] Well you obviously disagree with me. That's OK - you're perfectly entitled to be wrong. That's a joke by the way ! Perhaps we've just seen different bands. [/quote] Toche Mr Bassy, or should I call you by your proper title, Count? ( J for joke here too!)

[quote name='Count Bassy' timestamp='1351529692' post='1852234'] There's a non-sequitur here. There are bands that play the original lines and arrangements but are still crap, and there are brilliant bands that 'do their own thing'. The two classifactions, i.e. Crap/Good and Original/Non-original, are not intrinsically linked. [/quote] no there isnt, and no there are not. there are however just good bands out there

[quote name='Dr.Dave' timestamp='1351525778' post='1852171'] There's no need for anyone to justify why they do things the way they do. If you want to copy the fine detail - fine. If you don't - fine. If you can't be arsed - fine. If you're just beginning - fine. If you've done a thousand gigs - fine. There's no right or wrong here - just an interest in other people's approach. [/quote] Dr Dave has it right here and I'm sorry I hadn't thought it through a bit more, think hes right on this one,I think I'm right about learning the tune (for your bog standard pub covers band ) but take Dr Daves point, its horses for corses. Charic must be making Victor Wooten sweat though!!

[quote name='charic' timestamp='1351524947' post='1852152'] Do it better is mine [/quote] wow!! you must be Really good

[quote name='Doddy' timestamp='1351524691' post='1852143'] Local covers band down the pub are generally the most likely to be playing it 'in their own way'-how many times do you hear a band play a pop 'hit' in a rock style (which I usually think is horrible)? Ignoring that though,it is still possible to play a song right without playing it exactly. [/quote] Hmmm, it is. I'm just talking about getting it right, and "in their own way" is often an awfull kak-handed and shoddy approach. its the way of things.

[quote name='charic' timestamp='1351521525' post='1852086'] -1 I learn the original and keep the bits I like the rest becomes my own [/quote] Sorry,Cant agree, do it properly is my thing

[quote name='Adrenochrome' timestamp='1351523745' post='1852125'] Yes, I live for all the subtleties, exactly like you highlighted. Most bands do half-arsed versions of most covers, in my humble opinion of course. I see quite a few bands that don't even bother to put in the 'B' in the verse for She Sells Sanctuary for instance. [/quote] or play a D in chorus of "All right now" Jezzuz its in A!!

[quote name='Doddy' timestamp='1351522774' post='1852107'] Interestingly,I've spoken to a number of people on all instruments who claim to play exactly what's on the recording and they never do. Personally,it depends on a few things-if you want me to learn a whole set in a few day it's going to be close but not exact,but all the important bits will be there.If you want it to be specific,write it out. If I'm playing a regular gig,it might start out being spot on but it will generally evolve over time,but again,the important stuff will still be there. It's not about not being arsed to learn things properly-more that everyone has their own 'thing'.Darryl Jones plays differently than Bill Wyman. Sean Hurley plays differently than Pino Palladino.'Ready' Freddie plays differently than Chuck Rainey. Neil Jason plays differently to Will Lee.Brian Ray plays differently than Paul McCartney. They might be playing the same songs,but there are always going to be differences in the ways that they approach and play their parts. [/quote] No, no, no, there is a question of "degree" involved here Mr Doddy, if its the lofty heights of Pino Palladino interpreting John Entwistle lines then there is a point to be made about "my version". but come on, local covers band down the "Dog and Duck" ? just play it right otherwise its just an annoyance.

[quote name='Bilbo' timestamp='1351511974' post='1851886'] I have a simple approach to this. If the bandleader wants me to play a song once, he either supplies the dots or he gets a 'near as damn it/flying by the seat of my pants/never heard the original anyway' approximation. I play in one covers band and have held the gig for about 3 years. We play a range of covers from 60s to now and I have never heard the originals of most of the tunes and those I have heard I heard years ago once or twice and have certainly never worked on them. We have never had anyone come up to any of us and say 'that bass part was wrong' but this is probably because they are SO wrong that it is obvious we are not trying to play them right When I do shows, every note is written down and the product is 100% accurate. To expect people to learn every nuance of a cover when they are working in several bands/situations in between gigs is pretty naive. [/quote] so you're in the "cant be arsed to learn it" camp then.

"own stamp" or "my version" often means "I cant be arsed" to learn it properly Just a thought (dons tin hat) W