wateroftyne

Who is being deceived by these?

Yeah, I think that's what's happened.

I'm still not seeing any concrete examples of someone being deliberately deceived. Can you provide? As for reporting future attempts... absolutely do that - that's what the report button and the mods are here for. If we crack on like this, everyone will be happy, and no kittens or puppies will die.

It's also your pitch to the powers that be (of which I am not one) that they make a significant change to their policy. You're going to need a stronger case than 'I think something happened somewhere but I'm not sure'.

Right. Tell me - do you have any plans to appear on Dragons' Den?

Can you post links to BC threads to illustrate the depth of this problem?

And what problem would this approach solve? How would it improve the Basschat experience?

Hmm... here's a C&P from grocerchat.co.uk: NO FAKES Let's try to make this 100% clear. We have rules on Grocerchat. You should read them *before* posting, and re-read them as often as necessary to be able to remember them so that you don't break them. Regarding "Fakes" specifically, Rule 10 states; Do not post baked beans for sale that are not what they appear to be (fake, counterfeit, etc). We will not - we can not - allow the forum to be used for advertising baked beans that are not what they appear to be. If you're selling baked beans and your photos show, or your description says, that its got a label on it that shouldn't be on it (ie it was added retrospectively and not by the copyright holder), then it falls foul of the rule and is NOT allowed. Disclaimers in the description do not offset the visual evidence. It doesn't matter if you say that it's NOT Heinz (which is the most affected brand). An inappropriate logo on the tin still makes it appear to be something that it's not. For the avoidance of doubt, if you've put a genuine Heinz label on a non-Heinz tin, our legal advice is that the item as a whole is still considered a fake and so we can't allow it to be advertised here as a complete tin. For the further avoidance of doubt, I've referred to "Heinz" only as an example because that's the brand that's most commonly affected. but it applies to all brands equally - HP, Tesco, etc. In future, ads that breach this rule and show or refer to labels that shouldn't be on the tin/s being sold will just be removed. Members who repeatedly breach this rule will lose their ability to use the grocerchat.co.uk.

Is he still going? I thought he gave up in 1979 when his album bombed?

Thank you. I know you're only trying to protect us from ourselves.

To be fair - have any of us actually paused to consider the sheer volume of kittens and puppies that have perished as a result of Basschat's lack of order? Maybe Prowla has a point.

You keep referring to thefretboard.co.uk - what's that got to do with Basschat?

Of course it's a valid conversation - it's a pretty polarising one, too. Expect strong opinions on both sides.

I don't think they're getting personal. They're just trying to find out what's driving your thoughts on this.

I think we all need to be protected from this scourge - a menace which is ruining the BC experience. (Also, I think Fender should maybe look at the reaction these things get, and perhaps learn from it.)

That's fair enough. Chances are some poor webmonkey has made an honest mistake, and will have had a pretty nervy Christmas as a result.

Good stuff. I feel differently about it.

I don't think so. I think it's safe to say they're replicas made from a mixture of Fender and third-party parts. Very nice they are too.

I'm not sure what to say to that. I'm guessing the bass was clearly advertised as a Limelight..?

Was it described and sold as a legit Fender, or was it rather a misunderstanding by the buyer? I'm not sure the populace of BC should be penalised for it...

Could someone refer me to an instance where a fake Fender has been sold on Basschat as legit, to someone who believed it to be real?

Yep, and the reason why is referenced a couple of times.

It's a no-Rickenbacker sale place because Rickenbacker aggressively defend their intellectual property.

So... we ban the sale of overt replicas, and allow only the sale of either genuine basses, or the surreptitious sale of fakes. I'm really not sure what the benefit of this approach is...?