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Happy Christmas to me... [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/251931-ncd-tks-engineering-s112-cover"]NCD thread here[/url].

Thread from the dead... I'm about halfway through Jerry's book, and I really like it. TBH, if you're expecting loads of stuff about basses, go and buy a book about basses. But if you're interested in reading about one guy's journey through music, and how exciting it must have been to be a musician in 50s and 60s America, it's well worth a read.

Victor Wooten endorses these? Err.. whatever, Vic.

Hey gang Mr. UPS dropped by today with my lovely new TKS S112. As you'd expect from Tommy, it's a stunner. I'm a huge fan of the old version of the 112. My hope is that this is the same, albeit even cooler-looking and rear-ported. I'll not be able to give it a proper run out for a few days, but as soon as I do I'll report back. The package also contained covers for the S112 and my S212. They're excellent quality - very thick, very well made, a great fit and very reasonably priced. Fab.

The brown truck has arrived* More later.... [size=2]* Note: this isn't a euphemism for constipation relief[/size]

As far as I'm aware - and I'm happy to be corrected - Mighty Mite are a lot cheaper and have truss access at the headstock: non-authentic and ugly IMO.

[quote name='Lw.' timestamp='1419200077' post='2637596'] All good points, I was just putting an opinion across that he's valuing his time at over (assuming he buys in bulk) £465 - I have no idea how many man hours it takes to do a relic, but I'd be interested to know... Especially as I'd be up for buying a mighty mite neck P neck that he's reliced to put on my jazz! [/quote] Allparts, not Mighty Mite, I believe.

[quote name='Lw.' timestamp='1419191078' post='2637452'] £200 more than usual though - ouch. They're probably the best looking aged fenders I've seen but if you look at what you're paying for; the parts are probably £500 if you were to buy them yourself - I can almost swallow paying £265 for someone to relic it given the time & attention to detail, but almost doubling that? That would be more difficult - I'm sure someone will snap it up though, they are very popular around these parts. [/quote] To be fair, a Fender production-line equivalent is probably £100 more than that.

[quote name='spectoremg' timestamp='1419136956' post='2636902'] Rumour has it that Collins either refused to play or learn any songs from it for the '07 tour. [/quote] I'd be very surprised if it was even suggested...

[quote name='spectoremg' timestamp='1419109265' post='2636756'] And I love the way Calling All Stations has been obliterated by the thought police - a piece of work Banks and Rutherford were proud of but never got touched on the 2007 tour. [/quote] I don't think it's an era they remember too fondly... to be fair, it's a pretty terrible record.

To those who disagree with these basses on moral grounds, I have two questions: 1 ) How much money do they think Fender lose every time one of these basses changes hands? 2 ) Have they every downloaded an MP3 or copied a CD illegally, depriving the creator of a little bit of income? FWIW, I have no argument with people who don't get relic'ing, and and agree entirely that Fender have every right to protect their trademark. And obviously these basses should NEVER be passed off as the real thing (but if, as some people suggest, it's a £150 bitsa attacked by a belt sander, that shouldn't be possible anyway).

[quote name='uncle psychosis' timestamp='1418984004' post='2635411'] Personally I don't really understand why quite so many people are so desperate to put the Fender logo on instruments that, well, aren't. Even one of those "fender-alike" logos that use the same font but say whatever you want them to say makes more sense to me. [/quote] FWIW, I would be 100% happy with a Limelight logo that compliments the look of the bass. But it would have to compliment the look of the bass. Some are great (Lakland, G&L). Some of them are horrible.

Good choice going with Dave. I doubt there's anyone better.

[quote name='thebassist' timestamp='1418928662' post='2634994'] Are the dots inbounds clay on limelights? I played a couple but never checked that. [/quote] Mine are clay... Or something clay-ish.

Dreadful. Only 40 - probably my lowest tally in years and years. My main bands have become 'more selective'. Which is good, but it means we play less. I'd rather play more. Hopefully next year will be better.

I'm familiar with all the players on this recording, and it's awesome.* [size=2]*Not really. Never heard of 'em, and it's dreadful.[/size]

TBH, given most people's listening habits nowadays,I think dynamic range is a bigger issue then bitrate. You could be listening to a lossless recording through £30K's worth of boutique audio, but if the mix is standard 2014 fayre, it's going to sound like junk.

[quote name='Conan' timestamp='1418917965' post='2634845'] I'll admit that I haven't actually played a Limelight bass yet... [/quote] You're welcome to give mine a run out if you like, just to get another opinion on it...

Really, we should be grateful stuff like this is out there. It should encourage Fender to raise their game. You'd think.

[quote name='spacey' timestamp='1418915813' post='2634810'] Some suggest they are ? [/quote] They used to, but I think Mark very has sensibly decided to leave it up to the buyer.

[quote name='spacey' timestamp='1418914786' post='2634793'] The thread was not particularly about Limelight, [/quote] Oh - which [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]mainly counterfeit or snide mock up Fender basses that [/font][/color][color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]people are prepared to pay nearly a thousand pounds for were you referring to in the OP?[/font][/color]

[quote name='Delberthot' timestamp='1418898618' post='2634537'] Whatever they are, if they're doing the job you want them to do and look the part then who cares. [/quote] Yup.

For me it's all about the loudness war, and recording stuff on laptops in people's bedrooms. The latter doesn't always apply. There's a heap of big-budget stuff out there ruined by the former.

[quote name='Beedster' timestamp='1418891983' post='2634408']Relicing/ageing/distressing is about feel and function as much as about looks.[/quote] Yup. The point of reference for me is my '71 Precision. I've played any number of basses, and liked them, but as soon as I picked up the Limelight it [i]felt[/i] like my '71. In a sense, whether it fools anyone else or not, it fools [i]me[/i]. As for the whole Fender logo thing, AFAIK no puppies or kittens have drowned as a result of it. People who get their knickers in a twist about it should maybe divert their energies elsewhere. World peace, or something.