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[quote name='FinnDave' timestamp='1385583621' post='2290023'] You're probably right, writing about stuff you actually know about is never a good idea on internet forums. I'll stick to talking crap about bass playing in future. [/quote] What? You know about writing, and language and that? Please! Share your wisdom with us!

Mrs. WoT uses a Pirastro Tonica.

[quote name='FinnDave' timestamp='1385570583' post='2289789'] American English is still English. [/quote] Uhhh.. righty-ho. This might not be your kind of thread, then.

[quote name='FinnDave' timestamp='1385570168' post='2289784'] Almost every one of the apparently unforgivable grammatical errors listed here will be standard practice in the English spoken somewhere in the world, most likely within the UK. Or has dialectical variation been banned from the hallowed halls of Basschat? When I used to teach English at University, my standard answer to 'which of these is right?' would be 'that depends on where you are'. [/quote] Many of the posts have been acknowledged as regional variations. Too many of them are just lazy mistakes / Americanisms.

The Final Cut is extremely melodic, IMO. And depressing.

Mrs. WoT plays. Happy to pass questions on...

...and just remembered there are some Indonesian Squiers with the one-piece guard as well.

[quote name='yorks5stringer' timestamp='1385320771' post='2286911'] Can't remember if it was a Mexican mind..... [/quote] MIMs weren't introduced until 1990....

[quote name='Dingus' timestamp='1385319840' post='2286881'] Of course, journalists can be wrong , and opinions are subjective, but when it comes to old guitars , spectacles do always seem to be rose-tinted . Every bass is an individual case, of course, but it just really facinates me how the perception of these things changes over time. [/quote] This can be turned around... In the cold light of day, people who own 'em know they're great basses. Problem was, people were looking for something else at the time.

The Precision Specials are custom-shop quality. Top-notch. ...as are the AV reissues. I'd be interested to hear what people didn't like about them? Great woods, well-built with a keen eye for detail. Maybe they were 'disappointing' because reissues weren't what people wanted to see in the early 80s. Of course the MIJ stuff was also great at the time, and cheaper, but that's not what this discussion is about.

[quote name='Dingus' timestamp='1385318344' post='2286845'] I take your point, but it still sounds very spontaneous and under-rehearsed to me, albeit in a good way, , regardless of which take this is on the recording. [/quote] That's what I get from it, too. It's a great line, but it doesn't sound 'played in' yet.

[quote name='Dingus' timestamp='1385318060' post='2286841'] The first sign of better things from Fender was the Elite series , but the didn't turn up in the U.K in any numbers until 1984/85, partially because Fender U.K were trying to clear existing stock . I got one of my mates from school a good deal on a beautiful Elite 2 Precision Bass from the aforementioned shop , and that was the first one they got , and that must have been early 1985. [/quote] I disagree. Before the Elites there were the Precision Specials in '81, which were extremely well built by a small team, with great hardware and electronics. And then there were the American Vintage reissues in '82, which are regarded as classics and fetch a premium. [quote name='Dingus' timestamp='1385318060' post='2286841'] Fender basses were well out of fashion at the time anyway, and there were far fewer available in retail stores both in the U.K and USA due to lack of demand and the relative success of their competitors . How times have changed! When it comes to this era of basses , Fender might have lost that battle, but they won the war in the long-term. [/quote] I agree.

[quote name='Dingus' timestamp='1385314936' post='2286778'] At the time, one of the ( many) problems that Fender were facing as a company was that their retailers were in a state of revolt because of the amount of unsaleable utterly crap products Fender were giving them to try and pass off to the general public . Fender dealers literally couldn't give these basses away in the early '80's , and Fender had to start offering special promotions and discounts to the dealers to get them to stock these and several other of their guitars at the time. They even ceased production for a while . If these have become sought after as being "vintage" then anything is possible. It's as if in thirty years from now Susan Boyle becomes seen to be a sex symbol. Not least of all from an aesthetic point of view, they have managed to take something as inherently beautiful as a Fender Jazz Bass and make it look ungainly by virtue of the bizzare "restyling" . Why tamper with perfection, and why tamper with it like that? Fender managed to make themselves look not just desperate but lazy and stupid, too. I remember when these basses were current , and they were the worst possible use of your money at that time. [/quote] They ceased production prior to these, while they downsized and revised their processes. The handful of Dan Smith-era standards I've played reflected the much-improved QC of the time. Aesthetics are subjective, and every year has its dogs and diamonds...

[quote name='Moos3h' timestamp='1385307672' post='2286650'] Probably no great shock but some of those were the worst basses Fender made but by god some of them were awesome! [/quote] Weight aside, they're not famed for being hitty-missy...? The previous models (S7 & S8's) were a different story...

Early 80s models, around the time of the management buy-out. Like this...

Ideally, we set up in a circle and use floor monitors. No need for a PA - we don't have one pointing at us at the gig, so why would we in rehearsal?

+1 for Roqsolid. Brilliant. As an aside, Silverstone seem to have gone to the wall. Not before time.

[quote name='FinnDave' timestamp='1385295838' post='2286461'] (I always thought 'dep' was an abbreviation of 'deputize' rather than 'deputy' but am prepared to be proved wrong,) [/quote] Same fing, innit?

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1385289814' post='2286375'] I'd cry if I had to make do with a bass that sounded as horribly dead and farty as that.[/quote] I dunno... I can hear every note.

OK - the thread's mutated a bit, so I'll add to the moaning: 'ass' and 'arse'.

He had Ray Charles in mind...

[quote name='such' timestamp='1385147889' post='2285101'] Please give me a shout if you decide to go this route! I'd still have to get another, new one though. [/quote] I will - still pondering! [quote name='bjelkeman' timestamp='1385163887' post='2285339'] So my second W2126 arrived, and I got all the bits from Tommy to tweak it the way I want them. I bought cloth for the grill from the US. Asked for black corners and black screws. I also got a TKS case for my Mesa Carbine which I fixed with black corners. I must say I am pretty happy with this now. Took a few hours to put it all together the way I wanted. as I asked Tommy to provide the speakers without mounting the grills. I put the logos in the middle instead of the top corner where they normally are. Well, enough about the cosmetics. These cabs are awesome sounding and brings the best out of the Carbine, no doubt about it. Punchy, loud, strong attack. It is all there. As Musicman20 said. I am done. [url="http://www.flickr.com/photos/bjelkeman/11000003755"][/url] [/quote] Beautiful. I bet that sounds righteous...

Sorry - I can bite my tongue no more.. [i][color=#0000cd][size=6]Grill:[/size][/color][/i] [i][color=#0000cd][size=6]Grille:[/size][/color][/i]

Ah, I'm really sorry to hear that. What a shame. A legendary band on the circuit by all accounts.

The Watchmaker vids are funny as heck, mind...