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[quote name='LukeFRC' timestamp='1325157287' post='1480290'] Price isn't the issue though is it? it is already a great price. It's a question of can I afford this? Y/N Could I get a better bass for less or similar money? Y/N If I bought and wanted to sell later could I make the money back? Y/N Do I want this bass? do the positives out way the negatives? Y/N Would I play this less than a sunburst fender PJ? Y/N Would I mind it being different than the rest of my collection? Y/N Any no's mean possibly not the bass for you! (I was tempted but would have to sell a bass to afford it so didn't get past the first question ) [/quote] All good questions! No straight answers, unfortunately... It's a question of can I afford this? [b]Y.. kind-of. If it's stays I'll be selling my Fretless '71 P.. [/b] Could I get a better bass for less or similar money? [b]Possibly... or possibly not![/b] If I bought and wanted to sell later could I make the money back? [b]I dunno.. I'm new to the non-Fender market.[/b] Do I want this bass? do the positives out way the negatives? [b]It's soooooooo bling![/b] Would I play this less than a sunburst fender PJ? [b]If it was a great bass, no.[/b] Would I mind it being different than the rest of my collection? [b]See above.[/b] My comfort zone is under attack, and it's freaking me out. ha ha.

Just spoken to the chap again. He won't budge on the price, which is fair enough. Hmm. Now what...? Gaaaaah!

Jesus.. the one at Moon is £1600....!

Ha ha.. I noticed that. I'm still wrestling with myself over this one. It feels like a bargain, but it's not quite what I want. What to do, what to do...

The pre probably appealed to me because it was so subtle...

[quote name='lewyyy' timestamp='1325103545' post='1479948'] I could always play an electric and see how it goes... [/quote] Do that. After one gig they'll never give it another thought. As a concession, consider sticking flats on it.

[quote name='Big_Stu' timestamp='1325100816' post='1479904'] Being pedantic I would have thought that the whole point of going acoustic is to use acoustic gear. [/quote] But only since the 1990s...

Stick to electrics. I never got this 'acoustic bands need an acoustic bass' thing. It's all a bit 90s MTV unplugged. Plus, acoustic basses generally aren't very good. IMO, of course.

Hmm.. not sure...

[quote name='LukeFRC' timestamp='1325096052' post='1479837'] Do it. Someone needs to buy this to take the temptation away from me [/quote] If it had been 3-tone burst, I'd be sitting playing it now..! I'm such a luddite.

I've just been back to see it, this time armed with a better idea of how the Audere works. I found the out-and-out P tone. and it's bloody lovely. Gah.. this bass is sweet! I just can't pull myself out of my Fender comfort zone...

Run run run run run run awaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay

[quote name='LukeFRC' timestamp='1325079141' post='1479585'] isn't it the hi/lo z thingy.... like i know what that means off the top of my head [/quote] Something like that.. [url="http://www.audereaudio.com/JZ3D.htm"]here's the lowdown[/url]. Specifically, it was this config: [url="http://www.audereaudio.com/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=5"]http://www.audereaudio.com/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=5[/url]

[quote name='LukeFRC' timestamp='1325078376' post='1479573'] how heavy was it? (compared to other things?) [/quote] Umm... at a guess? 9-9.5lbs maybe. A pound heavier than I'd like. All the weight is in the body - it balances very well indeed. It's got them lightweight Hipshots on it. I spent half-and-hour thinking the little tree-way flick switch was a pickup selector. it wasn't (it's a phase switch or summat), and that explains why I struggled to find an out-and-out P tone. My fault.

(Mods - if this is in the wrong place could you move it, please? Thank you!) Hi all [i]This is a public service announcement.[/i] I'm on the hunt for a PJ, and[url="http://www.gumtree.com/p/for-sale/overwater-bass-guitar/92139220"] I spotted this on Gumtree[/url] for £930. It's up Gosforth way, for anyone who knows the area. I've just been to see it and my God, it's lovely... It's totally beautiful in a slightly bling way. The neck is very flamey (you can't tell in the photos). It's in excellent condition and it's one of the nicest playing basses I've ever played (IYKWIM). The notes are clean, even and lively right the way to the top. I didn't buy it because the preamp (which I thought was a J-retro, but I've just looked it up and it's an Audere) sounds too 'active' for my tastes, and it it's a little bit heavier than my ideal weight (but not 'heavy' by any means). It balances very well. I have no affiliation with the seller whatsoever, but I thought I'd do a public service and post my findings here in case anyone is interested.

[quote name='LukeFRC' timestamp='1325067634' post='1479464'] second hand japanese fender 62ri, a jazz pickup and your local luthier? [/quote] Yip... something along these lines is a possibility. [quote name='bassman2790' timestamp='1325067871' post='1479469'] This GAS attack wouldn't have been triggered by a certain Hot-Rodded Precision that appeared in the 'basses for sale' forum recently would it? [/quote] Maaaaaaybe...!

I can't bear any of that slappy nonsense, but it was nice to hear him play fingerstyle on that RAH thing on Sky Arts. I've not heard him play like that very often. Great stuff.

[quote name='Ed_S' timestamp='1325065058' post='1479451'] Not a whole lot to tell, really - I just think it's garbage. I've had plenty of active basses in my time and never once had to resort to the instructions to know 'which control does what' because my ears can't discern it. Not just me, either.. I took it along to the studio when our band was recording an EP and between myself and the producer we dubbed the EQ controls "bass, nothing, not much, and interference". Still, makes no difference to me because the plan was always to get a new, less busy pick-guard made for it (so it looks like a Precision again), pull out the preamp and wire it up fully passive. [/quote] Ta for that. FWIW, the pre on the one I played definitely did stuff. Even set flat, switching it in really opened it up, and it seemed silent. Mind you, a shop isn't the best environment to check this stuff in detail. That said, I'd run it passive most of the time, I think...

Ah - I've found the thread on it. I guess it is a switch in knob form, then. Interesting..!

[quote name='Ed_S' timestamp='1325064161' post='1479444'] Strange that you should've found that - I've always found with mine (and indeed it was commented on a BC thread not long ago) that although it feels like a standard non-detented pot, there were 3 definite positions to it and no real 'blend' between them. Maybe it depends who wired it, when, and which bucket of components they were picking from! But yeah, despite being openly critical of the preamp in mine (another story), I still love it for the build quality and passive tone. I say go for it! [/quote] Oh - that's interesting. I must admit I only really checked the Solo'd P, middle & backed off the to bridge tones. i didn't pay much attention to what was going on between those points... Tell me about the preamp. I'm intrigued!

[quote name='M-N-Y' timestamp='1325063129' post='1479440'] Hi, Just a thought but would you not consider one of these? It seems to tick a lot of the boxes that you require and having owned one I can say they play and sound amazingly.Lovely basses. [url="http://www.gak.co.uk/en/fender-reggie-hamilton-standard-jazz-bass-3-colour-sunburst/21728?gclid=CLfT0Ke0pK0CFSFItAodW1EX1A"]http://www.gak.co.uk...CFSFItAodW1EX1A[/url] [/quote] I do like the look of them (especially the [url="http://www.doctorbass.net/imagftp/Fender-CS-Reggie-Hamilton-4.jpg"]CS model with the blocks[/url]!) but I do like the P shape and neck profile...

[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1325023978' post='1479282'] On my visit to Gtrgtr down here tho... all the basses I looked at were pretty damn rank and hardy got off the stand because a) either the action was plain ridiculous or the general build didn't warrant a closer look, IMO. [/quote] [quote name='Musicman20' timestamp='1325025443' post='1479302'] Same with my visits to the Newcastle store, but this was at least a year ago now, so things hopefully have changed. I think with this one WOT, I'd 100% go with the P. Sadowsky basses are very nice, but they don't offer the traditional Fender tone, (which is a good or a bad thing, depending who you are) it is more polite, I agree. I really like the new Deluxe Fenders. Can you blend the pups properly, or is it neck/middle/bridge? Good to hear the quality was up there with the Fender. [/quote] Yep.. I'm a bit amazed that a £1300 bass (although the price is irrelevant) can sit on the wall tuned down a step (at least). of course the last person to play it could have tuned it down, but it seemed to be set up to that tuning. And Gareth - yep, the pickups are blended rather than switched. It seemed to work really well, i.e. the P really did sound like a P.

(This is a fairly pointless ramble. Be prepared.) Hi all I've recently been thinking about getting a nice PJ, as I love the solo'd P but I sometimes need a J burp. Jazz neck pups just aren't quite there for me. After a bit of research, Fender's 2011 Precision Deluxe is on my list, so I made my way into Newcastle to have a look at one... which is rare for me, 'cos I hate going to the shops. [b]WoT's Checklist:[/b][list] [*]PJ? Yep. [*]Rosewood? Yep. [*]Sunburst? Yep. [*]Passive mode? Yep. [*]P profile neck? [*]TV logo? Yep. [*]Tort guard? Nope. [*]Block markers? Nope. [/list] (I can live with the last two, though.) The one in GuitarGuitar was black & maple, but it I had a go to gave me an idea of how they play. The staff were very helpful and ushered me downstairs to the basement, where all the Fender CS and Sadowsky stuff lives, along with the Aguilar gear, and left me to it. I plugged into one of the new Tonehammer stacks. The strings were floppy as hell, so I checked it and it was tuned down a tone(!). Bringing it up to pitch sorted the tension, but consequently the action was a bit high... I bore that in mind while I played it. What a nice bass! The neck P width with a nice chunky profile, not far from my beloved '71. Solo'd, the P pickup sounded just like a nice, meaty P. Favouring the J gave a lovely, lively burp.. and that was just in passive mode. Switching to active made everything 'bigger'. I played it for quite a while and really enjoyed it. I also had a shot of this fella: It's a Metro... very pretty. It was a smidge heavier than the P. Fit'n'finish-wise, I couldn't choose between the two of them.. both seemed great. The Sadowsky's neck looked really pale, though... both the headstock and the board. Not to my taste. The Sadowsky actually didn't do it for me tone-wise (as much as I can tell in a shop). It seemed very 'polite' with a pronounced upper-mid which probably appeals to plenty of people apart from me. It £1800... the Fender wasn't cheap either at £1350. The thing is, the Fender has really rung my bell, and they have the Sunburst and Rosewood in stock in their other shops. Hmm..... *scratches chin*

Carrots.