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I've tried various compressors over the years and always found they take away dynamics. Never got on with them and really can't see how they can improve a bass sound in a live situation. Only my opinion mind you.

The Eden 410XLT is a great cab and you can get it in 4 or 8 ohms. Or the 410XST which seems to have more of a mid-scoop. People usually mix an XST with an XLT. I have a 210XST and 410XLT on order. The 210 goes deepest out of all the Eden cabs (on paper that is). I'm only suggesting these because you haven't said whether wight is an issue! And these are pretty heavy. Good luck.

[quote name='Zach' post='822735' date='Apr 29 2010, 09:47 AM']considering the rule of having to 10x the power to double the volume, power to volume is an exponential relationship, and therefore to stop your pot turning output also being exponential, you need the pot to be logarithmic to transform pot angle Vs output into a relationship that's closer to linear. hooray for A-level maths, lets just hope i've remembered it correctly. Edit: have thought of it more properly, you start of with something like 10^p=k.V, where p is power and V is volume, with k being some constant, and using log pots changes that to p=log(kV), so your response graph goes from [url="http://hotmath.com/images/gt/lessons/genericalg1/exponential_graph.gif"]exponentional[/url] to[url="http://people.richland.edu/james/lecture/m116/logs/logarithmic.gif"] logarithmic[/url], which is just a bit nicer.[/quote] Great - it makes perfect sense now! I will try log volumes and lin tone and see how it goes. Thanks for helping out.

[quote name='Ian Savage' post='821410' date='Apr 28 2010, 01:41 AM']Generally speaking, log for volume, lin for tone. Avoids the 'all-at-one-end' effect that you sometimes get with ill-though-out control setups.[/quote] Thanks Ian. Thats interesting because I asked the same question on Talkass (Paah!) and I got the opposite - Lin for volumes and log for tone. I guess I can try both options and se which works best.

Great, thanks for the heads up.

My next bass build will have passive wiring with single coil Nordstrands. My question is - whilst I can easily find a wiring diagram for vol, vol & tone, I cannot determine whether I need lin or log pots? Can anyone help me on this? Thanks!

I connect the line-out of my amp into this small mixer... [url="http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/802.aspx"]http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/802.aspx[/url] then use Shure earphones with the expanding foam replaceable surrounds. Can't remember the ones I have but they were about 50 quid and handle the low B great. Plus with the mixer I can take a monitor out from the PA into it and create my own mix. I have even used an overhead mic to pick up the rest of the band. I used to bulldog clip them to my strap to avoid snagging them out your ears.

I would definitely put it in. I built a bass for our very own Zapp here on Basschat and we had much more tonal variation than any Ernie Ball. Hugely powerful preamp with tons of bass boost if required. And there are lots of wiring vaiations to have switchable mid-frequencies. Do it!

[quote name='Stewart' post='757352' date='Feb 25 2010, 05:43 PM']You probably just need to replace one of the bulbs that GK use as tweeter fuses. I believe Thomann(.de) sell them (along with most if not all the drivers)[/quote] Or you can buy a bulb from Halfords. I had the same problem. It was like a car interior light bulb - same wattage just a fraction shorter.

[quote name='grimbeaver' post='755450' date='Feb 23 2010, 08:36 PM']If you were in uk I would invite you round for a cup of tea and a twang so you could hear them[/quote] Thanks! If I was still in the UK I'd definitely be round for a demo. I was considering the 410XST & 210XST but after reading the forum they all say that the best combination is an XST with an XLT, as the XLT has a pronounced low mid hump that the XSTs don't have. They are also advising me to get a 410XLT with a 410XST underneath. They all say that the XST range has incredible low end. One good thing here in Canad is the prices. The 410XST is equiv to 585GBP and the 210XST is 410GBP. Another reason why I'm keen to try Eden. But no bugger stocks them, hence why I'm keen to get comments from users. Cheers

Hi, I’m considering buying a couple of David Eden cabs and was wondering if anyone here has any good/bad comments or recommendations. Looking at the specs on their website I think I will get a 410XST for sure, but I’m not sure which second cab to get. I will be using an Epifani UL902C head (although nowhere near on full power!). An Eden 115 is only 400w and the 212 is the same. Plus the cabs frequency response is confusing me as the 410 seems the best of the bunch. Am I going to get a strong low B with the 410? I’m happy lugging around one 410, but not two. So the options are 410 and 210 or 410 and 212. If someone has any experience of any of those cabs I’d like to hear them. Thanks!

This was one of my amp choices a while back, and my only Ampeg. I got rid of it pretty quickly because it just didn't seem that loud. I don't know much about the tech stuff, but I suspect you aren't getting near full power because the speaker isn't 4-ohms? Does the amp go to 2 ohms? Can't remember.

I see the Epifani UL410 is now only 699 GBP - that's much cheaper than what I paid a couple years back. Seemed to handle my low B fine, although one cab driven hard sounded better than my two stacked together!

Perhaps you should give us some feedback on it!

I was using a GK1001 head and two Aguilar DB112 cabs in a rock covers band, and the whole set up was awesome. There's plenty of glowing reviews of the DB cabs and you won't be disappointed. I can't comment on the Whizzy cabs though.

I just added a homemade 15 cab to my two Agi DB112 cabs and it really adds some extra depth that is quite noticeable. The twelves do cope with the low B on their own but without the 15 they do seem lacking! I would recommend trying a 15 cab with your setup.

Mike at Iceni used to dabble in carbon fibre necks when he was making the Viceroy. Give him a try.

If more tone shaping means you can get more clarity than the 750 then it will be a worthwhile upgrade. I had a 750 for about a month and couldn't get on with the woolliness. I was going through three DB112 cabs, all with tweeters so you'd think there would have been some bite!

Like Crez I had a Thumb, and that was the worst bass for neck dive I have ever played. Headless basses just sit there when you take your hands off. Tuning is easier in my opinion, and the lack of head stock takes about a minute to get used to! I used to have an old Status 2000 that I wish I'd kept - ended up making my own headless basses.

It's a real drag letting these basses go! They just don't leave their cases. Damn the allure of that low B.

How about a Nordy MM pickup in the bridge location? OK you'd need to be brave with your router, but the MM/J pickup combo is so flexible. Like this bass I've just finished...

Thanks guys. I have owned American Jazzes and this CIJ is easily better build quality than those. I will try and get around 400 pounds for each. I'll probably bring one over in the new year and try sell it then. Cheers for your help. Ian

I'm having a feeler moment, so I have decided yet again that I need to stick with 5 strings so rather than having these two beauties doing nothing in their cases I need to raise money for another 5-stringer. So I'm trying to decide whether to bring one or both of these back to the UK in the new year when I come visit, and sell them. They are both CIJ models purchased about two years ago from Malcom at Bass Emporium. The Jazz is the JB-75US with the US pickups, and the P is the 1962 Re-issue Precision Bass PB62-60. Both have hard cases and are completely unmarked and mint throughout. Any thought on what they might be worth will be appreciated. I need to decide if its worth bringing them across the pond. Cheers

I attended an evening with Sheldon Dingwall at Axe Music here in Calgary and I am now converted to Dingwall Super J basses. There are so many innovations on that bass that you just are unaware of, and they truly do make for a great sounding bass. The fanned fret system takes about 5 minutes to get used to. The first thing you notice is the consistent string tension across the board, and an amazing dynamic tone. And they employ dual-density construction for the J. This means they use walnut for the top half of the body and alder for the lower wing. Bizarre I know but My Dingwall is convinced it improved the low B having a more dense wood for the top wing.

Three green ones sounds unbelievable, well at least it does now I changed the head to an Epifani UL902C. The Mesa head is garbage!