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Well I have taken the first step, my cabs are up for sale although the second I pushed the 'post' button I felt a bit sad about selling the 4x10. After all this fuss and bother they probably wont even sell, but I am going to try and get two 1x12 cabs now and see how it goes, fingers crossed!!

I would highly recommend the EBS Classic Session 120 combo. I played through one in a shop a while ago and the sound was unbelievable, deep, articulate and very loud for its size. EBS Classic kit in my experience is very modestly rated, I have a 1x10 cab and used to own a Reidmar and both are incredible. I use the 1x10 to practice with a 10 piece soul band with a very powerful brass section, no it doesn't have thundering low-end but you can hear my 5 string no worries through the rest of the band. There is one on eBay (not mine) for £150 at the moment. It also has handy practice features like line in, headphones and DI for gigging and it has tilt back which is handy. New they are about £50 more than your budget, but I would say worth it.

[quote name='Gunsfreddy2003' timestamp='1384123921' post='2273120'] Completely disagree, the BH250 is a really quiet amp and useless in a full band environment. I am currently running a Mark Bass LM3 and an EBS Reidmar and I would say that the Reidmar into a 4ohm cab is louder! [/quote] I had a LM2 and traded it with a Reidmar. The Reidmar was so much cleaner and more powerful than the LM2 into a 4 ohm cab. It's one of the reasons I asked my opening post, I just don't know whether to bother looking at watts anymore. I remember reading that the tonehammer 350 had the same power section as a lot of the 500w amps on the market! All I know is, it's got bucket loads of volume, more so than my old LM2......bizarre!

[quote name='pete.young' timestamp='1384082705' post='2272485'] If you are happy with EBS you should consider their 2x12 Neo. Only 24kg, an easy one handed lift. Great sounding cabs, I had one for years and only sold it because I was seduced by the lure of a 4x12! [/quote] [quote name='Musicman20' timestamp='1384092512' post='2272616'] The NX2 is now £399 at Bass Direct. Save yourself a lot if hassle and get one! It's basically almost half price! The NX2 will get very close to 4x10 volume and punch, beating some of the more normal mid priced 4x10s easily. [/quote] That Genz is an amazing deal! However, my issue with my current cab is size more than the desire for 12" speakers over 10". I was looking at single 12's so that it was two small lifts instead of one big lift. To be honest weight isn't really a huge factor its more about whether I can get them in the car without folding seats down and get them up and down my stairs without marking walls and taking out banisters. I thought a single 2x12 cab might be an option but after some research, they are all basically the same size as my neo 410 give or take an inch here and there. So I think its definitely two 1x12 cabs now or two 2x10 cabs otherwise its not worth the hassle swapping my cabs. I have picked up my EBS 110 today and compared it size wise to the Bergs available. I am still a bit mystified as to how they can make such small cabs have such deep and powerful bass and give as much power as they seem to......seems like witchcraft to me!!

[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1384074755' post='2272387'] Big fan of DB cabs but MM20 is right... DB112 alone is a bad idea...esp if coming down from a decent 410. You might pick up GS112's more easily but again, you'll need two. Same chassis, completely different bias. I have a couple of Berg AE112's I might sell... [/quote] Potentially very interested if you are thinking about moving some bergs!

[quote name='Musicman20' timestamp='1384026402' post='2272147'] I am a massive fan of the Aguilar DB cabs, but there is a caveat to that: A) - The prices for the DB cabs now are, IMO, too high. I bought a DB212 for a little bit more than the current price of a DB112 (brand new as well). B ) - 1 DB112 cab will struggle if you are going from a 4x10 and want to retain most of the volume. In fact, it just won't work. You will be pushing one speaker very hard. C) - A DB112 cab is not light, if you compare it to many 2x12s on the market. Eg, the Berg CN 212 is around 46lbs, the GB NX2 212T is 47lbs. They will absolutely outperform a single 12. I own a DB212 and the tone is fantastic. It looks great, has a tone I prefer, and is plenty loud enough. I could not rehearse with a DB112 that well, never mind gig, unless its quite a quiet band or they don't have a lot of stage volume. Despite all this, the DB112/212 is still one of my favourite cabs for tone. [/quote] I am glad I posted that question I think I needed someone to tell me it was a daft idea. I suspected I would struggle with one DB112, and right now because of the prices 2 is going to be out of my range unless 2 pop up secondhand. I think I got a bit too excited after looking at the aguilar site, DB cabs are very nice looking things.

Well I haven't been to Bass Gear or Bass Direct yet, simply because I have been having a slight mental breakdown figuring out what I need and what I can move easily without spending £1500. I am on the verge of changing the whole rig at the moment. Because I have always had relatively low powered heads I have always had 4ohm cabs to get the most out of them. This limits my choice of single cabs to an extent, so I have been thinking about higher powered heads and not necessarily driving at 4ohm. Looking at possibly going to a Tonehammer 500 or the AG500 at the moment (although tempted by a EBS HD350) and starting off with just a single DB112 cab until I can get one secondhand somewhere. On the off chance, anyone using a single DB112?

Cheers chaps, I thought it must kick out a fair amount of power at 4 ohm as so many of them have been sold and it must be ok for Tal and Marcus Miller live! I would love to try one as there are a couple about used at the moment, I might just have to splash out and take the gamble. I would run it with a EBS Neo 410, although I have been looking into two 1x12 cabs. I have to say I agree about it looking like a 'proper' amp, I have had a few class d amps and there is something that I don't trust about them. It's completely irrational but I do miss that weight of a classic amp. I loved my Reidmar, brilliant amp but I never thought it had the build quality of other amps.

This might be a really dull question so apologies in advance but I will try and explain my thinking. I love EBS gear, I have loved all of my EBS cabs and I loved my Reidmar but I have always been really interested in the HD350 and find myself really tempted to get one. My issue is with the power/volume it can produce. EBS say 350w at 2ohms and that is exactly the same for the new HD360 from what I can tell. Now for the sort of money both amps cost new, it seems they are underpowered compared to nearly every class D amp going, some of which cost half as much. Do the HD350 and 360 kick out more volume than 350w rating would have me believe? It just seems a bit odd to charge over £900 for a 350w amp, but a lot of pro players seem to use them so they must pack a punch live? Can any current or previous owners comment?

[quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1383571538' post='2265943'] Bassdirect has 2 EBS 112 cabs. [url="http://www.bassdirect.co.uk/bass_guitar_specialists/EBS_Classic12_files/EBSFront.jpg"]http://www.bassdirec...es/EBSFront.jpg[/url] [/quote] I already have one of these and debated just getting another but I am very aware that they are 'budget' cabs in the world of 112's. Mine is used at practice a lot and its great but doesn't have vast amounts of low end and I cant imagine even adding another will give me good volume or that much more low end. I could be wrong, perhaps I need to try two....god I am going to have to drive to bass direct as well at this rate.

I dont know why I hadn't thought about them but has anyone got any experience of the EBS Neo 112 cabs? Two of those might be a possibility and I do like EBS.

[quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1383560284' post='2265741'] Christ, that's cheap...! Also, check out the TKS S212. I'm actually thinking of getting one myself. Trying one first might be tricky / impossible, though. [/quote] My thoughts as well, incredibly cheap. I have watched your TKS thread with great interest, they look great and good prices as well, as you said its the gamble not being able to play one. They should make you a endorsee/rep in the UK with a decent selection of the range.

I think I am going to have to bite the bullet and go to Bass Gear or Bass Direct and actually look, lift and play some of these cabs to see what will be manageable. My only issue is wasting shop staff time, I don't want to drive all the way there play for a couple of hours and leave with nothing, I always feel like I am wasting their time if there is nothing I really like. Oh well might just have to get over that and go to Bass Gear, they have a lovely selection of Bergantino and Aguilar as a first port of call. Vanderkley are very much on my radar, they look great and get good reviews. Not too sure about Barefaced, I am sure they are superb and I don't want to offend anyone but I just don't like how they look and if I am going to spend a huge chunk of cash I want to like what I am buying (vain I know). After looking around and reading everyones comments, on reflection it is amazing that there are so many good quality products we can choose from, when I started it seemed there were only a handful but I feel very well catered for.

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1383499725' post='2265106'] A good 2x12 will be better than an average 4x10 imo and ime, the only problem is that im still not convinced that 2 1x12s are as good as a 2x12. Sure the maths say that they should be and alex barefaced says identicle boxes times 2 will be the same but they are not identicle as you have two dirty great pieces of plywood between them. Id love to try a pair of 1x12 neox t genz cabs next to my single 2x12 neox t cab. [/quote] I have been tempted by a Bergantino 2x12 cab, its a bit slimmer and manageable than my 4x10 but only a bit, and I think it will still be awkward for me on my own moving it. At 1:30 in the morning I want a couple of easy lifts out of my car. I think a trip to a couple of shops is my only option unless an amazing deal pops up.

[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1383498383' post='2265076'] wow..... one thing I never found was the GS112's being boxey. They had masses of low end for me with a 5 st... but what didn't work... even with the tweeter, was the hi-end unless the strings were very new and crisp.. This is why I sold them... the band loved them though. I find the DB212 which use the same chassis' much better higher up...and it still have great lows which underpin everything. If I could find a pr of DB112's that would be my small footprint rig..in place of my current 112's [/quote] Thats really interesting, I think boxey was the wrong word, you hit the nail on the head, I never really got the top end out of them. The only way I can kind of explain it, is when I got my EBS Neo, it was like someone had lifted a really thick blanket off my cab in comparison to the Aggie's. I think my tastes have changed though and I play a lot of soul and motown stuff so I really don't need that crisp top end. Perhaps the DB cabs will be a better match, they do look fantastic as well.

Thanks for all the comments and suggestions folks, I had a gig yesterday so I am just scanning through them all now. Last night really highlighted how much of an inconvenience the 4x10 can be so I think its pushed me even closer to going over to a modular set up. I like the EBS Classic 112 I have but I am very aware that it is a budget cab. It sounds good at low volume and does well at practice but I am unsure whether to gamble on getting a second as I am not sure how much power they will really take and whether they will handle the 5 string. I had two Aguilar GS112 cabs with an Eden head and I found them very 'boxey' and mid range, they didn't have a lot of low end and the low B never sounded very full. I am tempted to see if the DB112 cabs are any better, they would look great with the tonehammer. I think its just about finding the 'right' 1x12 cab, I am sure from all your comments they will work well for me, but I think I will need good quality ones and I will need to try them. I do really like the look of the TKS cabs as well......hmmm

Hi folks, I have a EBS Neo 4x10 rated at about 1000w I think. It runs at 4ohm with an Aguilar Tonehammer 350 and it's working very well, great volume/power, I don't thrash the head and I get a good sound. So here is the dilemma, I have a small house and the cab lives down a narrow staircase in the basement. Its a pain to move and I usually take chunks out of the walls trying to move it. The other part of the dilemma is that I have a EBS classic 1x12 and I use that 2-3 times a week at practice to save me moving the big cab. It seems stupid that I have a VERY good cab sitting at home doing nothing most of the time and I have a small cab doing most of the work at rehearsals. I have been thinking about moving to two 1x12 cabs but am concerned that it wont give me the power and 'move the air' like the 4x10 does. I do have PA support most of the time but rely on a powerful backline to hear myself (big band) but sometimes I do have to just use backline, but only in small-ish rooms to say 160 people. Has anyone done a move over to two 12's, and does it give enough volume and power? I know there are different levels of quality cabs, I wouldn't necessarily go for EBS classicline, perhaps Bergs or Aguilar? (not GS cabs, dont like them, found them 'boxey' sounding). I know I need to try this stuff out really but I always feel guilty going to Bass Direct to just try stuff, not knowing if I am going to buy anything.

Does anyone know how to get a copy of the album? I can't see a link on their website.

As others have said, a small mixer will do the job. EBS Microbass is also a good option and you wont need an amp.You could get a very basic cheap interface for the computer and just play through the laptop with headphones which is what I do, it works well. Another option is if your spending money on a mixer, buy a small bass amp with a line in and headphone out so you can run it all through the amp itself. You then also have a handy little combo for quiet practice so you don't have to use a big rig.

Just to throw in a third option, have you looked at Hipshot? I think their bridges are stunning and incredibly well made. I have one on my squier and its fantastic. If it has to be one of the other two I would go for the Babicz.

I think I will probably end up with a secondhand Mexican 50's or RoadWorn unless a good Japanese reissue turns up. Failing that if I win the lottery tonight a Pino signature might be in order.

Thanks everyone, as has been mentioned what I am basically after is a 44mm nut which I should have perhaps stated. The RoadWorn is high on my list but I was also interested in a vintage instrument as well as the prices of 70's basses seems achievable. It's good to know some of the 70s basses have the bigger necks, the fatter, deeper, wider the better for me when it comes to necks. I would love a nice 70s if the weight was reasonable and I can get the nut width, I love the 3 tone 70s burst too.

I am after a bit of info on Precision necks and haven't really found my answer anywhere, so I am hoping some precision experts on here can help. I am after a Precision but I like the big necks found on the 57 and classic 50's precision (and now the new vintage reissue precisions). The twist is I would quite like an older bass with a bit of character and have been looking at vintage instruments. Obviously the original 50's and 60's precisions are really expensive but some of the 70's precisions around are pretty reasonable. So the question is (finally) do any 70's precision basses have the 'C' width neck like the 57 or are they all narrower A and B profiles?