To get back on topic.... I personally hate fender flats, which are about the cheapest I think. They are very stiff and sort of liveless. I tried all the Thomastiks, LaBellas, etc. which are nice in their way, but quite costly. Then again they last about 25 years on my fretless !!! My best deal for the money are Galli flats. They do it for me at have the cost of LaBellas.