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Should every bass player play at least a little bit of guitar
RhysP replied to CHW's topic in General Discussion
[quote name='CHW' timestamp='1426680645' post='2720620'] Following on from the Guitarists who would be bass players thread in OT, I started thinking about this. I started off on bass, and picked up a guitar when I had been playing for a couple of years, learning open chords, barre chords and a few scales for a bit of lead improvisation. When I moved back onto bass I discovered that I had automatically improved as a bass player, not just in that I could see(and recognise) a guitarist play a G, D, C and Em progression and immediately have the fundamentals of a workable bassline in my head. but that I could work together better with a guitarist. I have ended up playing both in gigging bands (probably prefer the bass overall still) but still think if I'd never played the guitar, I'd be a less accomplished bass player?? I'd be interested to know if there are any long term bass players out there who cannot play any guitar, and couldn't recognise a B7 chord visually, and how do they pick up the more random seeming chord progressions from a guitarist. [/quote] I've been playing guitar for a while now, have gigged on guitar & definitely play far more guitar than bass these days, but I couldn't recognise a B7 chord visually. Why is it important to be able to recognise a chord visually? I can hear a 7th chord no problem, which I would have thought is more important. I don't think playing bass for years helped with playing guitar when I started, and I certainly don't feel like playing guitar has helped my bass playing as my approach to the two instruments is completely different. -
Wow, that's a beautiful refinish, lovely colour.
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Four year old thread back from the dead....
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[quote name='Lucasade' timestamp='1426549324' post='2719321'] ......we just want to move to somewhere where there is a decent amount of work around and not too insane rent wise. [/quote] Good luck with that.....
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[quote name='joeystrange' timestamp='1426531471' post='2719004'] Last time I checked I had 6mm at the 12th fret. I think I'm some kind of heathen. [/quote] Now that's a real mans action! None of this "I like my action to be 0.5mm at the last fret because I play so lightly my fingers are like a butterfly landing on a lovely flower" crap.
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[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1426527078' post='2718906'] Very much this. However which synth to buy? Back in the 80s I had synths by Akai, Casio, EDP, Korg, Roland and Yamaha. Each of them did some of the classic synth bass sounds, but none was versatile to cover everything. [/quote] Very true. Any purchase would have to be a compromise, unless you bought racks of gear or ran some decent emulation software for all the classic bass synth sounds. Something like a Novation Bass Station would be a good starting place, and just work on getting some approximations of the sounds needed. Nobody in the audience will care too much about authenticity anyway....
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Just buy a synth, better sounds, better all round.
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I'd be happy with that, but I like an action to be a bit on the high side.
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It's a good bit of kit, more than enough for my sporadic & meagre efforts.
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What audio interface are you using? I've got line outs & a monitor volume control on mine (a Focusrite Scarlett 2i2) for this purpose (though I don't use them).
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Picked this up on Gumtree the other day for the bargain price of £150, including a TKL case. Very impressed with the build & finish quality - I've seen plenty of Gibson ES335's that aren't as well made as this Tokai. [url="http://s86.photobucket.com/user/RhysP/media/image.jpg1_zpsqx0i2sig.jpg.html"][/url]
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If it works for you that's all that matters, there are no hard & fast rules with this stuff.
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Why do so many builders not lacquer their necks anymore? I guess it's just a cost cutting exercise (that they don't always pass on to the customer) or maybe they just haven't got the skills to do it. Call me old fashioned but I would not even consider buying any bass or guitar with an unfinished or oil/wax finish to the neck and/or body.
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1965? I'd be more than happy to have that as my YOB bass - very cool, love Mosrites.
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[quote name='Leonard Smalls' timestamp='1426242423' post='2715979'] But the moon in June inspires a lovely tune! [/quote] You're obviously a natural when it comes to lyric writing...
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Lyrics are incredibly difficult, unless you're happy to just churn out the usual "Moon June"stuff. I'm in the same boat as you, really enjoy trying to write stuff but I just really don't have anything to say. I'm angry about a lot of things but I'm very aware that I'd just sound a bit of a whinging twat writing about how unfair life is at the age of 50....
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[quote name='spyder' timestamp='1426196859' post='2715650'] I wanted to keep the price down so I took the standard bass, worked out at just over £600. [/quote] Bloody hell, that's a good price.
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[quote name='Stickman' timestamp='1426200411' post='2715718'] Isn't their live bass player a BassChatter too - is it still Dan? [/quote] Yeah, I think his bass chat name is Dan The Welshy - incredibly talented player.
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That'll be KiOgon.
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[quote name='Bilbo' timestamp='1426083783' post='2714162'] I guess I am saying that, when I started, I wanted to play everything that every bass player ever played; Teen Town, Silly Putty, Schooldays, Donna Lee, Portrait of Tracy, Joe Frazier, Hot Water etc etc. Now, I just want to be able to play bass at standard where I can do my thing within a Jazz setting. A lot of time could be wasted learning things that, for me personally, amount to little more than party tricks. [/quote] I learnt to play by learning (by ear) bass parts to songs by bands I loved. As soon as I got to a point where I felt my technique was good enough to allow me to do the things I wanted to do I stopped learning other peoples stuff altogether. I never had any interest in learning to play all the standard bass players party pieces as I just couldn't see there was any point in doing so other than for purely "look what I can do" dick swinging reasons. A lot of what is regarded by many players as "essential stuff to learn" is in styles of music I hate & would never ever want to play so the effort involved in learning them just so I could say I could play them seemed totally pointless.
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My friends Christina (vocals) & Steve (drums) are playing there with their band (Magenta).
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[quote name='Conan' timestamp='1426077368' post='2714066'] Who always sounds spookily like Giblin to my ears! It's hard to tell the difference between them (IMO). But for a (relatively) unknown bassist, Giblin has a hell of a CV! [/quote] He was the house bassist at Abbey Road Studios for years - not a bad job.
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[quote name='Cameronj279' timestamp='1426028156' post='2713691'] You've got me doubting myself now actually as I know it was definitely Jimmy something. I think I'll edit my comments actually. Wouldn't want to mistakenly slander a mans work. [/quote] I've never heard anything other than the highest praise for Jimmy Moon. His acoustic guitars are as good as anything available. I'm pretty certain you must be thinking of somebody else.
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Alan Thompson.