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erm..... a jazz bass has 2 jazz pickups in either 2 positions.. that bass has neither... when you move or customise a pickup config, its a hybrid... that lovely bass is no longer a jazz bass.. i can bet it sounds very different... its like having a Ferrari and putting a Maserati engine in it.. it used to be a jazz bass, but someone has changed it and turned a jazz bass into something different.. it sound silly to be so pedantic and im sure i sound like a nerd, but the line has to be drawn somewhere, and that is what this thread is about.. bet it sound very cool though

[quote name='sussexbassman' timestamp='1327190264' post='1507748'] Agree it's not tonally accurate to the original, but that's true of many Fender Jazz's. This bass is made and sold by Fender and [u]they[/u] call it a Fender Jazz so why is that any less an 'official Jazz' than one sold by them 50 years ago? [/quote]it doesnt matter what Fender do to the original.. just because Fender change it doesnt change what is an original concept.. i really cant see why there is any confusion in this thread?? a Fender jazzalike with a P pickup isnt a jazz bass... its a hybrid

[quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1327171632' post='1507449'] Here's a Jazz bass: [/quote]sorry but there not jazz basses.. why would you think they were?

THE most underated soul funk band imo..... i have every album(the exception of the best of) they ever did... they are totally smokin.. my mum had all there stuff also... a proper UK funk band.... brilliant musically.... this track is smokin.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Th1oqs6iqrw

a wonderful album... i always bang on about good music but these guys are the sh*t.... an amazing band... the harmonies are just out of this world.. only 1 album to date... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-V_-vlN5yI

this is possibly the best bass playing ive ever heard.. Willie Weeks on Donnys classic live album... his bass playing just rolls along so beautifully, just like Jamersons lines... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLUh70zp0LE

[quote name='M-N-Y' timestamp='1327168923' post='1507408'] Another amazing Chaka track from the same CD this time featuring the peerless Anthony Jackson. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNArTCG6j2A"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNArTCG6j2A[/url] [/quote] MNY you got good taste my friend.. Move me no mountain was very special the first time i heard it.. Marcus Millers playing is superb on this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ549k4wKmg

[quote name='M-N-Y' timestamp='1327169144' post='1507409'] One of my favourite players on this one, Jonathan Maron. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7D8r92ftS8"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7D8r92ftS8[/url] [/quote] onr of my favorite albums.. we the people is fantastic.. as well as sneaky

this is super cool.. check out the synth.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daga-cJfqB8&feature=player_embedded#!

always enjoyed the abbey road vids.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XbJSFqLjhA&feature=fvwrel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKO8rnKg94o

[quote name='McBass' timestamp='1327164685' post='1507316'] [media]http://youtu.be/RluNrXjP3zY[/media] Sick groove and playing. [/quote]yep that is amazing....!!!! reminds me of Steely Dan

BigBeatNut, this is great also.. these guys can dance.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFODu0AG194

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO1vv8d6xyM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-L8XUUCmpY&feature=related

this is killer... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLChM4nQpJI&feature=list_related&playnext=1&list=AVGxdCwVVULXd6plXuvVCiWlQCfncoijNP

[quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1327159549' post='1507210'] [size=4]This is just my opinion, but as far as 5 string Jazz basses are concerned, Nordstrand and Mike Lull are making far better instruments than Fender have ever built, closely followed by Lakland.[/size] [/quote]i agree Chris, and then you get to guys like John Suhr, who take it to another level... its a bit like adding cream to butter to refine it.. it may taste better but it aint butter... ill get me coat..

the easy answer is.. if hasnt got these 4 attributes its not a true jazz bass.... imo 1. Jazz shaped body 2. Single coil jazz pickups 3. jazz neck 4. Passive I love the copies of jazz basses like Sadowsky's, Suhr's, etc.. but there not a true jazz bass... they look like one but there still a copy... nowt wrong with trying to improve on the design but Fender did it first and there no way to bend the image or sound.. you could say, even Fender has blurred what is really a jazz bass, but its still a Fender Jazz bass.. my conclusion is, if i doesnt say Fender Jazz bass on the headstock, its not really a jazz bass.. its a copy and you really have to stop it there imo... if i had endless cash i wouldnt buy a Fender Jazz... because others just do it better, but it doesnt take away the fact that im buying copy

Julian Crampton on bass duties... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUuAedvq48M

always been a favorite band.. seen them live a few times... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VoJzshPWjI

[quote name='M-N-Y' timestamp='1327150011' post='1506997'] This is an absolute classic IMHO. Hope you enjoy listening. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eugtKbAf3kA[/media] [/quote]blimey forgot about this one... yep it is a classic.... good call

.. P, when i first started playing i struggled just like yourself.. first off why did you give up lessons? a GOOD teacher is invaluable!!! i cant stress that enough.. maybe you didnt find the right teacher.. there is nothing like the one on one.... i had piano lessons for a little while and its so important to have that close information contact.. i taught myself how to play bass and i think it shows in my theory, and i think that really thats why i wanted to play in the first place.. dont play theory catch up like im doing...if that what you want from the instrument? i usually find Youtube information to be bit by bit.. you never really find the info you want....unless Jack's suggestion might be good mind... if you dont want to go back to a teacher i recommend a book by a guy called Stephan Richter, its just called "BASS".. comes with 2 CD's.. its THE most comprehensive book ive ever come across, and ive seen lots... if youve got the time and patience its all there.. of course a book like this will bring up questions, so i go back to my first point.. a good teacher.. no matter where you go you will always want to ask questions about stuff you may get stuck on... the best way to learn is from human beings who can can show you in real time.... from a book it depends how well you soak up information and understand it. also listen to music.. im sure you do. but really listen, and listen all the time... i used to surround everywhere i went with music and still do there are much more knowledgeable guys on here, that could prob give you some better advice.. i dont know them, but maybe you could ask guys like Bilbo, Doddy.. i dont want to speak for them, but im sure they wouldnt mind a quick Q.. i know what its like to need answers to something your passionate about... i wish you well

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UTzL1ZnaGg

sorry if this has been posted... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ma8ABYwo1Ew