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[quote name='Lozz196' post='1037330' date='Nov 26 2010, 07:36 AM']Whilst Basschat is a kindof community, where we should all hopefully treat each other with respect, I always look at items I`m buying in this way: Is it worth the asking price to me? if yes, I really don`t care how much the seller paid for it - that`s really not of consequence to me as the buyer. If I`d previously seen something go for, say £250, that I wanted, but didn`t get there in time, now being sold for £400, provided the £400 was either a good, or fair price, it`s just my tough luck for not being quick enough when it was £250. That`s life - it`s not always fair. Another thing to consider maybe, when someone is selling something ridiculously low on here, does anyone point out that the market value is much higher, so the seller should maybe raise the price?[/quote]Yes...

there is no natural progression... its you and what you feel....

[quote name='Randy_Marsh' post='1037219' date='Nov 26 2010, 12:40 AM']Really nice groove to this song from Timmy C [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KEKL8fcvzY"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KEKL8fcvzY[/url] Love playing along to this for the tapping after the intro. To me it sounds like someone desperately trying to escape. Plus the drummers pretty good [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KEKL8fcvzY"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KEKL8fcvzY[/url][/quote] you posted 2 times bro..

the bass playing is so good.. his blues orientated groove is sublime. around 3.25 onwards... [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khfv_5Dyb1k"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khfv_5Dyb1k[/url]

please put up music we can hear..its only a youtube away..

Ok there has been threads about Funk/Groove/Jazz...but i aint seen one from guys who are passionate about rock ..whats up with that... i mean rock/heavy rock/death metal... im a little limited in my knowledge but i would like to get a thread started i was a skater for 10 years....these are a few i used to listen to.. while falling off.. RATM... an obvious 2 from this rock funk classics .. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_-QGNUYL5g"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_-QGNUYL5g[/url] i love this big time.. bit obvious to most i guess.. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qfKornBBGg"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qfKornBBGg[/url] I cant remember the artist but the track is killer...Ray Barbie and Chet Thomas are such great skaters...old school fantastic skating.. this vid still has the same effect on me many years later...sooo cool.. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-u2U9iekjQ"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-u2U9iekjQ[/url] This has always blown me away..one..for the frickin tone hes got on that CT... two.. for the band... man these guys can groove..love the way Les vibratos on the headstock... there are other versions. but not as good as the live one... [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAkvBqp8R8E"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAkvBqp8R8E[/url] I used to play this song with a band...allways thought it to lean towards a funky feel... very cool track.. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6CtuOtcCds"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6CtuOtcCds[/url] White Zombie.. i like this.. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPNFVj-pISU"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPNFVj-pISU[/url] WOW... [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7A2acBVENA"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7A2acBVENA[/url] Same band.. very different..this turns into Jazz Funk.. this is just superb in every way.. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp1nyDF9Wak"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp1nyDF9Wak[/url] Caninibal Corpse.. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFnIJZyBhi0"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFnIJZyBhi0[/url] Body Count.. my favorite man.. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-kwNNLmhd8"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-kwNNLmhd8[/url] would really like to hear some other stuff i aint heard...

[quote name='Beedster' post='1037033' date='Nov 25 2010, 10:07 PM']Hope I didn't cause offence dude C[/quote]Oh Chris not at all. its no big deal...all good

i can appreciate Doctor J,s views... i just dont agree with the hard buying and selling of instruments to make a profit from great people on here..thats it.. im gonna go for £1700 on my Modulus Jazz..any buyers...jeez.. ok £1650.. oh i sound like the soft puppy of BC dont i..

[quote name='Beedster' post='1036985' date='Nov 25 2010, 09:29 PM']I just want to know where you find the time to change your avatar so often And who are all these people? C[/quote] Chris ive been made redundant....so ive erm....got alot of time on my hands..ive never played so much bass.. all these people? they are the people who i met in the local job centre...as seen by the hoody..

It's a shame to see your instrument sold, thinking it's going to a good home, only to see it for sale again at an inflated price. like P said.... its just not what i would call... "in the spirit of musicians".. i would expect this from shops, etc, not individuals passionate about electric bass... am i old fashioned?

[quote name='neepheid' post='1036941' date='Nov 25 2010, 09:04 PM']Might do.[/quote] Ha!.. well i will be round in a second with a cold mug of tea...

if you were my next door neighbour and we were doing a deal on a bass would you make a profit on me?

Ok.. on tender feet i ask this question. i should say, this has nothing to do with certain seller that was possibly jumped on a bit unfairly, by me also, so i deleted my message.. it was not the case... but im interested to hear other opinions.. what do you guys/girls think of selling a bass for a profit on BC..i personally think its not on...there are two sides to this... Yes..its a forum to buy and sell basses,amp,equipment...so really its a free market, to buy sell, make a profit... on the other side, i have always thought that BC is a bit of a close knit community, that has respect for one another... this is not ebay..its a forum of bassists and musicians that for the most part know each other.. (i know i do) (ok not that well but there are a few that i speak highly of as people, and have helped me out in one way or another)....one in particular.. For me i dont like it...i understand why some guys do, but this is not a second shop to there personal deals, they may be interested in... i would never sell a bass for profit anywhere...i just dont think its right..im not a sales man and dont really care for money... i cant stay on the shelf on this matter im afraid... maybe becauase ive lost loads on BC...ha.. maybe im being over sensitive, and spending too much time on BC..? any thoughts..

[quote name='Goldphinga' post='1035782' date='Nov 24 2010, 11:48 PM']Donna gardier is alive and kicking and sings with the sunburst band [/quote]See i told you i talk rubbish..

Playing a bass with an onboard preamp, into an outboard preamp, into the preamp of your combo, for instance, *can* work just fine. It seems a little longwinded, but hey, whatever works for you, soundwise. yeah it would work but why on earth would you want two preamps going into your amp??????

Stevd that is superb...KATG track makes my bass move on its own!!!!

[quote name='Ou7shined' post='1034506' date='Nov 23 2010, 10:06 PM']There's not much you can do other than put a new pre in.[/quote] sorry dude i dont agree.... this is not a problem with the preamp .unless you really want to change the pre amp...ive seen this on other Vintage basses (ive played lots) and i feel there is an electronics prob... ask the seller to see what they think and say the high's arent up to par...ive played this bass in a local shop.. and the highs were glassy.....very trebly... changing the batt wont do a thing... if everything else in the EQ works, you should have no probs.. IMO erm..ok a J East would be killer with the right pups...but thats not the point!!

You wouldnt really use an out board preamp if your using an on board also... 2 different pre signals going into the amp.. this is up to your ear and you wallet, but thats a hell of alot of EQ.. way to much at the end of the day your last signal being the amp (being your second amp/eq) has some speakers attached.. why have a third in between the pre and the amp.... most guys who want an out board pre have a passive bass...and want an outboard preamp that gives them the flexibility of the pre without having to route the body of a passive bass for electronics.. etc or for an on board, some people want a more flexible, or finger touch to an amp/eqd in there bass, so they dont have to go to the bother of going to there head/amp to tweak the EQ that they can do from there bass...or some may think that there preamp in there bass gives them tones that there amp cant do..depends on the bass preamp, or the amp itself.. for example i want a 3 band preamp with a mid that gives me more than my aguilar can give me...its all preference.. others are much more experienced and can word this better..

I've just had a drink and get a mixture of curious and hypothetical after a bit. QUOTE>>> ha! well there is nothing wrong with that..its a forum after all... no the out board will be the same but just not in the bass Thom.. well a bass amp is gonna cost you more for a start.... if the bass is not the prob bro, what Q are you asking...? do you want to get rid of the Ibanez.... what amp are you running? thats a different question.. thats post eq, pressuming its an active bass..

[quote name='zero9' post='1034611' date='Nov 23 2010, 11:57 PM']Before deciding on what pre-amp to use, I did exactly that. Looked at various reviews on the web and advice on Basschat. By chance I heard a guy play his bass through a Sadowsky outboard pre-amp (luckily he used my rig at the time). I was blown away. I was lucky to find a SH Sadowsky DI on Basschat and love it. Didn't have to carve the old P up to fit it either![/quote]Zero 9 ive had a Sadowsky but not had the Outboard..is it that good. didnt get to know the onboard that well.... thinking about getting one for my Modulus...is it a very comprehensive preamp.? i do like the thought of having an onboard preamp as it comes part of the bass itself.. like Thom said its impossible to tell in your own context... i got a graphite Modulus jazz, so its even more tricky..

[quote name='ThomBassmonkey' post='1034584' date='Nov 23 2010, 11:30 PM']So in the same way that Jazz basses, Warwicks, Stingrays etc etc all have their own distinctive sounds, yet different depending on model, brand, woods etc, do pre-amps have similar distintive characteristics (obviously varying depending on which bass they're put in?) e.g. Is there a certain pre-amp that sounds more hi-fi than others, another that's more growly etc?[/quote]Yes and no.. different preamps act differently.... a transparent pre...lets you hear the natural sounds of a bass but just amplifies every frequency, or preamps that color the tone of your bass and give the bass the tone of the preamp.. or everything in between... the nuances are hard to hear but they are there..not really anything to bother about unless it bothers you... after time the more basses you play it may though...this is splitting hairs though...a good preamp like an aguilar im sure you will love... i love the aguilar 3 band..its a formidible preamp and will sound very good in you BTB... keep looking at reviews on talk bass keep asking q's, look on harmony centrals reviews... just like learning the bass itself, it takes time and money to learn what you like tonally... best to spend as little money getting to your conclusion though..thats when asking a researchung comes in..

[quote name='zero9' post='1034582' date='Nov 23 2010, 11:28 PM']You could try 'outboard' pre-amps. They're easier to change...[/quote] just as expensive though if its not for you..i think the most comprehensive is a John East...i had a Deluxe in a Sei.. any tone you want with great quality...took me a while to get know.....depends on your ear of course...did your bass have a passive switch..do you like the tone of your bass naturally?...then choose a preamp that is very transparent...(please chime in BC'ers) or do you want to colour the tone more?.. a great preamp i had in my old jazz was a Creation Audio Redeemer circuit... dont let the fact you aint heard of it put you off, it was superb in my jazz..really punchy, but every passive frequency was amplified.... apart from that ive heard an Audere is a great unit...

[quote name='ThomBassmonkey' post='1034570' date='Nov 23 2010, 11:12 PM']I know a lot of people change pre-amps in basses, I've thought about it in the past (particularly with my old BTB which sounds a lot flatter than most basses) but I wondered how you know which pre-amp is the best suited to your bass and what you want to achieve, when a good pre-amp costs about £200, I can't imagine people experiment to see what suits what. I also can't imagine it being easy to find the same bass/pre-amp combination that people want to try out. So how do people know what pre-amp to pick?[/quote]Thom the old Q ive been searching for... straight answer...you cant...there are too many variables...the best thing to do is to take it to a luthier,, look up a tone or tones your after on you tube/whatever and im sure he could get there...Ask J Shuker he has given me some great conclusions through email to what i want to get to.. ive had J east, Glock, Bart, Aguilar, Fender, each sounded great in the basses ive had, but might not sound good in a bass that YOU, and i mean YOU own and the sound you want to her..your not going to get a bad tone with most of these as well as others but its a difficult thing to know...just like pickups.... like i said its too subjuective and there are to many variables.. a luthier is your wise manll... me personally from the preamp and pickups i had in a lakland would be Glockeklang and Nordstrand fat stacks...i know you werent asking about pickups but they both sounded immense.. if not an Aguilar OBP3 OBP2 or OBP1 depending what eq you want...